He was trying to spare me walking home the morning after in my Halloween costume and I kept the Dickies and Keens and tall cotton socks.
glad you got something valuable from him.
a couple lines popped to highlight what welby is getting it I think
We do our thing and are no better than you just because itās not your thing. No worse, either.
Grant is making fun of roadies the way that roadies have been making fun of āregular people riding bikesā. Heās mirroring their dipshit behavior to illustrate how whack it is.
Your mileage may vary. I get that.
heās not offering something better than yours. heās offering something else than yours. take it or leave it.
Is this still a thing, though? Admittedly I donāt hang out with roadies (or other people in general) but I havenāt seen this attitude expressed in many, many years.
welcome back
itās not a thing
but itās still a thing
remember, to an old fart yesterday was 1991
LOL nope.
How about āif you need an ebike to keep up you should quitā
āIf you canāt ride XX Miles youāre too unhealthyā
Pubes is doing a better job (as usual) with his of course.
I really donāt get why youāre defending this boomer jackass and his obvious trolling. I donāt think anyone here is offended by (or surprised by) anything Grant says. I think the sentiment is more of shock at how transparent and hypocritical his nonsense is and yet people still line up to defend it.
Iām not mad. I think itās hilarious
Heās specifically not about keeping up
Heās also specifically about short rides are just as good as long rides
I want all the bikes. I want all the bike ideas. I want to read about all the bikes. I want everyone to ride bikes all the time. If someone is wrong about bikes I am better for having engaged with their wrong idea and come to my own conclusion.
That said I donāt need a frame that weighs 2 surlys and costs 4 surlys but I do like knowing where to look when I want a choice of upright handlebars.
No kidding. Itās the same approach though. Itās gatekeeper nonsense.
Itās exactly the same move as racer bro shop rats vibing normies out of a shop. Itās the painting of deliberately exclusionary/hostile white dude nonsense as inclusive thatās so absurd.

Itās the same approach though.
Itās only the same if you ignore everything heās been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, thatās anti-gatekeeping.
He clumsily tries to combine two of his bullet points into a one sentence ākinda makes you thinkā social media bullet point and suddenly all context is rendered null and void?

Itās only the same if you ignore everything heās been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, thatās anti-gatekeeping.
Itās all fine and dandy if youāre Grant-adjacent have have decades of context, but in the age of context collapse, itās fucking weird to see a bike personality/company post āyou should ride your bike lessā on their instagram.
All I see is a old guy who used to mail out a newsletter not understand that his audience is much much flatter and wide-reaching.
But people who are Grant-adjacent enough to know his clothing preferences trying to paint him as a gatekeeper really feels like rightwing pundits trying to cherry-pick MLKās āI have a dreamā speech to argue that MLK would have been against race-based scholarships or something.
I dunno, my limited interactions with grant did not lead me to read that with gatekeeper vibes. I took it more as a continuation of his donāt take bikes seriously schtick.

donāt take bikes seriously
but spend $2k on a frame.

but spend $2k on a frame.
If cooking has taught me anything, sometimes it takes a lotta money to get a good vibe going
(but I will not be buying a Rivendell for the record)
And sell a $10 derailleur to put on it

Itās only the same if you ignore everything heās been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, thatās anti-gatekeeping.
He clumsily tries to combine two of his bullet points into a one sentence ākinda makes you thinkā social media bullet point and suddenly all context is rendered null and void?
Iām not ignoring it. But just taking prior things he said at face value and saying his current statements are irrelevant just doesnāt make sense to me. People change. Especially as they get old and technology and culture continues to change around them. Sachs gets this. I really donāt think Grant does. And itās not like there havenāt been more weird statements from him prior to this.

itās fucking weird to see a bike personality/company post āyou should ride your bike lessā on their instagram.
This.
Some white dudes become cooler with age. Some end up like Morrisey.
His blog response really does cement it though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd-9ZeJOEvZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He truly canāt just talk about what he likes with out shit-talking alternative. Thatās my beef. His entire marketing shtick isnāt ādo what you wantā itās anchored to being anti-something. I agree with a great deal of his core ideas. Itās good stuff. But he canāt present his ideas without being smug. Literally starts off his rebuttal with the most absurd humble-brag.
Hahaha Tarck is foundationally pro anti