Thanks!
One of my Horizons had two pin holes right where the casing meets the tread. I smudged one before I took the photo but you can still see one of them where the little Stan’s bubble is. Is this normal? I noticed it when I pumped the tire up to about 25 psi and heard hissing begin to emanate from the hole.
Smear urethane glue on there. Cost of living deliciously.
My brand new WTB Horizons had a few holes in the same place. I suspected it was from some piece of assembly machinery, maybe a staple since they were evenly spaced and followed the radius perfectly. There were also a bunch of pimples with very thin rubber you could pop. I stupidly popped one while I was looking down at it and it sprayed a few drops of sealant on my glasses before clotting.
Only somewhat related, but I had a large piece of steel puncture one side of my Horizon and come out the other, and literally all I did to repair it was let the sealant pool on either side for an afternoon, then I re-mounted them tubeless. I’ve been riding it that way since June.
Looking for a 29 x 1.75-2.0ish tubeless slickish tire for around town yolo bike. First thoughts are Nano or Small Block 8 but I’ve never been particularly happy with either of those. Bonus points if available through Q or JBI.
Are the Vittoria Bombolonis decent for a 27.5x3.0 tire?
It sounds like you’re looking for Thunder Burts, as long as you can clear a 29x2.1.
It sounds like you’re looking for Thunder Burts, as long as you can clear a 29x2.1.[/quote]
Or the wtb riddler (45 / I forget what mtb sizes it comes in) is smaller/cheaper, tho less supple
When it comes out the 700x50 Clement MSO is probably your ticket.
WTB Riddler TCS 700x45 would be a good one too.
Yes.
No delivery till July… oof.
Any experience with the Maxxis Pace 29x2.1? Lil too side knobby but might be a decent placeholder till the MSO drops
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When it comes out the 700x50 Clement MSO is probably your ticket.
WTB Riddler TCS 700x45 would be a good one too.
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No delivery till July… oof.
Any experience with the Maxxis Pace 29x2.1? Lil too side knobby but might be a decent placeholder till the MSO drops[/quote]
Just get the Riddler. Or check out the Maxxis Treadlite. I think both will give you more of it than the Pace.
Also… goddamnit Jan… you don’t get to blame one of the longest running bike companies in this arena with tons of experience with tubeless for Panaracer’s fuckery!
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What evidence do you have supporting your claim that WTB has QC issues? I have personally build up 46 TCS rims in the last year and I have seen exactly zero issues with tolerance. I would say that the only other tubeless rims I have seen with this level on consistency in quality would be the Hed Belgium Plus. I have heard similar feedback from other wheel builders as well.
If some tire brands fit snugly and others fit loosely it’s clear that the issue is with the tires not the rims. I have yet to see any issue with mounting a WTB, Maxxis, Schwalbe, Specialized or Bontrager tire to a WTB TCS rim. All of those companies use a similar bead design that properly interfaces with the TCS/UST standard.
The obvious issue is that the loose, more flexible, and non UST bead that Panaracer specs is not made to the ERTRO standard for UST/TCS. They certainly can work fine on these rims with a bit more attention to setup and they work well on Stan’s BST rims (which are intentionally off the ERTRO spec to work better with non-UST/TCS tires).
Blaming WTB for the fact that your tires and their rims are simply not built to the same standards is an incorrect assessment of the situation.
I would suggest it would be better to state clearly which rims Panaracer built tubeless tires perform best with and maybe give tips to best use them with various tubeless rims.
Make no mistake, I am a big fan of Compass Tires and we sell quite a few at my bike shop here in Virginia. I personally ride them (as do two of my employees and my business partner at the shop and with Endpoint). However, I recognize that do to their very light and supple nature (coupled with their “hand made” nature) they do require additional attention to setup and service.
I would be happy to give you my list of various rims and tire combinations we have used with Compass (and other Panaracer built tires, along with similar types of tires from other makers) with specific feedback on fit, and setup.
We have specific protocols for many tire/rim options detailing everything from layers of tape to preferred tubeless sealant.
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Just say "hey, our tires are not UST/TCS… here are some tips to get them working best with that type of rim!
But Jan is literally LovelyBicycle in this situation, only he’s selling components and giving bad advice instead of just giving bad advice.
Man it sure would be nice to convince him to make the bead work. Braden: where are you communicating with him?
Just trolling on his bleurg a la Fred. Probably pointless to communicate beyond that. Getting him to admit his tires are not the best from a tubeless standpoint is about as likely as getting Dick Sachs on a mountain bike.
My fat chance has stupid retro clearances, 26x2.1 is about the max, whats a good new england tire (I am not getting rad, mostly granny gearing it around exploring) that isn’t super wide? I have SB8’s which are… ok, been good winter commuter tires but not really good mtb tires.
Just filtered on the Schwalbe site and it looks like the Rocket Ron (balleur?), Nobby Nic(smart move?), and Racing Ralph all come in 26 x 2.1.