A safe space to complain about jackass humans

You’ve got your DODGE RAM MACHO MAN,
Your CHEBBY COMPENSATERATO, your GMC WISH I WAS SIERRA SIZED, your FERD F-ONE-MITTY (OR F-1-TITTY depending on degree of misogyny, homophobia, and literary competence on the part of the bullied), your TOYOTA UNDY, and NISSAN hahah no one buys a Nissan full size.

Anything bigger gets the full what are you compensating for treatment.

I’m gonna get the f420

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reddit calls them all emotional support vehicles which really covers it all.

Also heard a rumor that anything bigger than an F150 would require a commercial drivers license in the EU which make sense… also learned that my FIL does not need any special license to drive his massive RV.

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Well, Mr. Big Truck was pulling out as I was rolling in again this morning. He had his window up, but pointedly avoided my aggressive eye contact. Did not murder me.
I hope everyone gives him stinkeye and he feels bad and insecure and it keeps him up all night.

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Not sure if this is a joke or not, but this was implemented for traffic signals in California and was incredibly regressive. More or less a penalizing the folks that were struggling the most.

That’s kind of the thing about going after motorists. There’s a whole swath of the population fundamentally dependent on the ability to be able to drive around cheaply and any change to that can represent a huge challenge.

Also, kinda wanting to defend pickup truck drivers in this thread being one myself, but, you know. In my experience 100% of them are assholes.

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But obeying the traffic laws is free.

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I do not give a rat’s ass how regressive it is, everyone drives way too fucking fast and human-based enforcement will never keep up with it it. We can talk about the economic part after we deal with reducing the car-caused murdering.

also, driving slower improves your fuel economy

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Heath, are you seriously saying that people who drive dangerously shouldn’t face consequences because some of them might be poor?

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yeah this is a weird one and definitely a result of industry lobbying in the 70s IIRC. another odd loophole is there are no special requirements for trucks that are big enough to require those extra lights, but even the F150 size trucks are 1/10" below the 80" threshold for ‘commercial trucks’

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Automated enforcement also doesn’t result in people being shot, unlike human-based enforcement in the US.

Choices about where cameras are placed can help make automated enforcement less regressive.

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yes here in rochester there was quite some controversy when it was discovered that cameras were basically exclusively placed in lower income communities. i would also be happy if fines were a % of income, which solves the regressive problem entirely

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In Philly we put up enforcement cameras along our most dangerous road, which also happens to go through most of the poorest neighborhoods. Since then, crashes have dropped by something like 80%.

The folks who want to get around these cameras just take their license plates off.

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No.

I’m saying that when implemented in California for traffic signals poor people were disproportionately affected by a tremendous margin.

That is a fact. I have no firm opinion about what’s to be done about it.

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it’s also worthwhile to acknowledge that many ‘traffic enforcement’ programs are designed to generate revenue, not create safer streets and communities, because acab

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I am hopeless that car centric design will end in the US but I think that we can change perception of about rite of way, responsibility, and driver behavior in cities.

So Ive been brainstorming different stickers I could make to tag up around my neighborhood:

So far I’ve got:
Drive Slow Respect Pedestrians:
with a link to speed and pedestrian survival rates in crashes

This Machine Kills Children:
with an image of a kiddo standing in front of a big truck with a link to that consumer report study

Drivers are Dangerous:
(with a link to number of traffic deaths a year)

any more ideas?

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Didja wave?

Yes but also adab.

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The Finland solution.

If you don’t have an income tax just make it some percentage of the average price of the vehicle at the time of the ticket with outliers removed (top 5%, bottom 5%)

People could argue by providing their own value for the auto but anything less than 95% the average price of the vehicle is listed for sale at the declared price for a week and they have to accept the offer if it meets their declared price.

Ah, the NYPD solution.

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Some. Got in an argument with some pinhead (not you, relax) about the difference between traffic enforcement in large cities with a lot of revenue and small towns with little revenue and why they might be different

Of course, automated traffic enforcement is the opposite of capricious revenue generation because you can choose to operate your vehicle in a way to not pay that revenue. It’s a voluntary tax, so do with that what you will

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