Nope! I only had the metal ones.
From what I can recall, the VP-001 and Vice platforms had decent-sized bearings (at the expense of pedal thickness/profile).
Youāre way more hardcore of a ride than Iāll ever be!
That said, I went from clipless ATACs to the large Stamps, then back to 45North Helvas. The Helva pedals are too small (functionally 95x95 because of the parallelogram offset and huge outboard brearing), the Stamps felt massive in a good way, and Iām kinda torn between going back to Stamps and trying something new.
The Pinkbike crowd despises convex pedals like OneUp, Iām an āin the arch of the footā rider, anyone know if those are actually better? I have Specialized shoes, theyāre pretty stiff.
Zero problems with One-up plastics, while Iāve seen low-profile fancy metal pedals eat bearings and axles. As a mid foot rider I think the convex pedals feel sooo much better.
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Iāve clapped oneup composite bearings as well as snapped a pedal body from striking a log
Deity deftrap is my number 1 in every metric (bearing life, grip, size and shape) except that Iām trying stamp 1 gen 2ās for less shin damage when my form inevitably gets shaky and I forget to drop my heels etc. They also share the same symmetric/non-offset platform as the tmacs which is fairly unique to deity (and feels good underfoot ATMO)
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Iāve been riding deity tmacs for about 4 years now and absolutely love them. Got some supervillains last September and theyāre at least equally good
the tmacs have a slight bend but I also bought them used so I donāt remember if I did that. They have been flawless otherwise with no service
I have built a complicated statistical model of all of the responses to this question and have come to the conclusion that we have made absolutely no progress here. And no you canāt see it
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The Deftrap look like the Black Kat, but composite.
Every time pedal chat happens Iām reminded of the Black Kats in my parts bin with a bent spindle. One is only bent enough to notice while pedaling, so I always forget which side needs the replacement.
I should try a deftrap. Would love to try a few other pedals but those few others are $100+ andā¦ no.
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Sup has the deftraps. Havenāt ridden them myself.
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I like the Deftraps. Ride those a few times, most flat pedal experience is with the Black kat or anvl pedals.
oddly, i think my commuter deftraps need some grease or a rebuild now, but i can continue abusing the ones on the ebike no problem (and those get way more pedal stikes).
FYI
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FWIW this is our best seller. Everyone that rides flats at OP rides some variant of Deity pedal. Iām a HT clipless guy on the mtb, but Def Traps and Supervillian on cargo and basket bikes. The Deftrap is more like the T-Mac than their other pedals atmo. I donāt think you can go wrong with any of them. Plus still 100% independently owned company and a pleasure to deal with.
So, I need Tarck hive mind to weigh in on something.
If I have a Banshee Phantom with 140mm fork and 66Āŗ head angle, and also put on a short stem with back-swept bars that ultimately put my hands even with or slightly behind the center of the steering axis, will my handling be complete ass?
Itās kind of a stop-gap until my fitness and core strength improves a bit more, but really, Iām just thinking through how to get back on the FS I already have and love. The rigid 29er is fun and all, but itās too limiting with the rooty terrain around here.
It feels like itās fine on the rigid, but Iāve never tried it on a FS and itād be good to know if my idea is doomed from the start.
Iād go for it. May not be optimal for your full squish, but we can all adapt to pretty wild geometry, may just take some time to adjust. Almost every moto dirt bike has hands behind steering axis. Cargo bikes. Klunkers as above. I think part of the change isnāt just hand position, but that your center of gravity will move, and thatās what will take some time to get used too especially when it comes to weighting the front end for traction.
Bemore has been doing the 0 and negative stems, too.
Funny timing because I was just watching this last night.
Itās an experimental bike and has a 3mm(!) stem. Seems like he gets around fine on it.
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Cool, thank you, this is the expert info I needed.
The Phantom already has 445mm-long chainstays, and if I really need to for balance, I can put on the ālongā dropouts on that fit 29+ wheels.
Iām really tempted to try the 850mm wide moto-inspired Stridsland Anchors on the thing, for cool factor. Itād put the bars above the saddle, which Iāve never seen on an XL FS, but it might be fun!