I think it bled into off road cycling as well. I’ve heard people referring to trail beta.
30 ft whippers remain to be seen.
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This is a strava beta feature. so it is in the software sense, not the climbing sense.
I know, which is why I pointed it out! Is beta for reconnaissance even a climbing term? I was aware of it well before I was aware of climbing as a hobby.
Maybe it’s a finance term What Beta Means for Investors
beta for investors is yet another beta
and don’t even get me started on the fish kind
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@halbritt and others, what do you get out of intervals.icu? I’ve been poking at it a bit and other than a couple nicer interfaces to look at stats for a particular workout I’m not seeing much that isn’t available on Strava directly. Am I missing something?
It has more dimensions for analysis and other features that would be useful for more advanced training.
Strava has a power curve, which is helpful, will do estimated FTP, and also a performance management chart, which are the very basics.
Intervals.icu has some planning and some tools that show conformance to plan. I never used it exclusively and I’m not training seriously lately, so I can’t give a more detailed answer. If I were serious, I think I’d probably use WKO5.
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FWIW Strava just started messing with the license/terms of use for their API and not in a good way. I just signed up for intervals.icu and migrated my Strava data over before I let my paid membership lapse.
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Wow. That’s shitty
yeah, there’s a lot of uncertainty around what exactly their goal is, but it feels crummy when Strava has been the beneficiary of everyone giving them their workout/ride data in the first place and they want to turn around and limit how or what you can do with that data afterwards.
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all my data lives in Garmin but gets pushed to Strava, RWGPS, wherever
I guess if I wanted an analysis platform I shouldn’t have to send it thru Strava on its way to get to my analysis. And I still own my own data
Thanks. That encouraged me to poke around a bit more. The more I poke, the more I see that there are more interesting stats lurking in corners (sometimes literally).
You’re right about more control over the power curve metrics.
The planning tools don’t do much for me either. These days, I mostly go day-by-day deciding what I want to do based on how I feel.
@schultzor, yeah seeing the DCRainmaker piece today spurred me to look at intervals.icu more closely. It really seems like Strava manages to take one step forward and two steps back with each flurry of updates.
Since I’m coming back from injury and ramping up volume and intensity, I’ve been paying more attention to the per-workout and long-term metrics to try to not over-do it and to figure out where I am relative to historic fitness. I’ve found myself bouncing back and forth between the Garmin app and Strava. It seems like intervals.icu might centralize a lot of those analytics, if I can find them!
Definitely a theme with them 
I’m wondering if they saw what Reddit did with selling LLM-training access to their data to google and decided that route was how they were going to salvage a payday for their VC overlords.
Strava data could be used for training much more interesting models than LLMs! But instead they’ve rolled out their laughable “Athlete Intelligence” which just does a poor job of summarizing the data that’s sitting right there in front of the user.
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yeah that thing is garbage that just slows down the UX after a ride
seems shortsighted? doesn’t this just give someone else the ability to create the middle integration layer now that strava does not want to be that layer?
it was cool they shared data so freely with the API, will be fun to see what new offerings and products arise in this shift
I’m guessing someone saw the Niantic geospatial data mining from Pokemon Go and saw dollar signs.