Crapbrapping or Pukebacking or Poopbarning

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panarium sounds way better

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Looks like you need to rewatch PLP video where he drones on about the proper pronunciation of pannier.

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I have a rogue panda bag for my Lynskey, and the buckles are far away from my knees. Depending on how I roll the top I have issue here;

bag by shinytravisto, on Flickr

Tightly rolled it seems canend up being bulky and pokes my knee chubs when pedaling. Still playing around with an easy fix, but a loose roll seems to help.

Other than that, bags solid and great. I enjoy not having a zipper there, my Tangle always is a rough go and doesn’t feel as if it will last.

Outer Shell had their roll much further down the bag, like 4-5 inches. That way it wouldn’t be as likely to rub.

Oh, I understood that part, I just thought he was talking about these pseudo panniers that the bikepackers like to use:

I don’t really get those. The width and inconvenience of panniers without the benefit of a proper panniers size.

I’d rather have a big ass traditional handlebar bag and ass rocket for grav riding.

I’m curious how much the jodphurs throw off handling compared to a buttrocket.

and a pair of nothing cages weigh more than even mediocre racks

Spending money is the point of those, right?

I bet my Tara and set of 30 year old lone peaks weigh a lot less than those.

With the Tara there is the issue of ground clearance. The last time I went dirt touring with full rando style panariums I had to rethink my lines so I wouldn’t snag them on the side of the road cut.

I’d like to see a custom rack that’s basically a Tara but mounts over the top and bottom everything warts instead of the lowrider and dropout bosses.

I know @orc will see this eventually, but a little nudge never hurts.

The people I’ve known that use those are pannier averse because that’s like a slow uncool bike rider thing and they are FAST BIKE RIDER PEOPLE AND NEED FAST BIKE RIDER THINGS.

The pannier snagging thing is a good point. But I’m super wary of these things because all I hear about is them cracking/breaking. They’d be a last resort for me after shoving every orifice of my frame with soft bags.

The Tara is that S-shaped rack, yes?

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As long as there are no zippers involved you’re probably fine

I LOVE ZIPPERS

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lol, I could build one right now but I don’t own any adventureforks.

@orc by Tara I don’t mean the S-shape specifically, more the minimalism of it.

I guess it would just be a tube that goes from the lower boss up and over the tire to the other side, and a horizontal tube that attaches to the top boss. You don’t need any of the support that would normally go below the dropouts.

I feel like someone has already made something like this but I can’t remember who or where.

Tara:

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