I like them. They donāt work great with old levers. You can kinda make it work but yeah, like it was pointed out, they are for modern levers. They have a real short reach, which i like.
Cowbells are great too if flare is okay. I donāt really like flare on a road bike sometimes. @EndpointBraden whats the best compact bar you would recommend? Not too expensive thoughā¦
Seems like cowbells only come in 31.8. Stoker stem is 26.0 and captain stem is 26.0 frozen in place, so I think itāll have to be the highway1 with some modern levers. Thanks!
Itās not about that. Iām just saying youāre objectively wrong. Saddle to bar drop is a completely arbitrary thing to fixate on when it comes to setting up a bikeāespecially a bike that isnāt a road bike.
No. I dispute that it was for aero gains.
Typically vintage mtb drop bar setup is that the #1 position is in the drops. That means the stem is LD to keep the hands at an equivalent height to flatbars, while the brake levers should be set up lower than Belopsky has for perfect braking action from the drops and a hand position that is super secure and almost impossible to get bounced out of ('cause rigid forks). These bars were typically flared for width and control but also wrist clearance.
Braking from the hoods is (was) not a consideration. The flats and ramps hand positions are for climbing, you shouldnāt be braking then anyways.
Why do all modern mtbs have flatbars then? Iām not sure about that. Probably because they descend from American cruisers, needed more brake power so went to 4finger moped levers with old cantis, then v-brakes came along and required new lever cable pull so flatbars levers went that way while road levers went another. Maybe something to do with frame design, market differentiation from road or cx, perception of flat bars as more like dirt bikes?
Iām totally speculating on reasons drop bar mtb died out. Not saying it was better, but it certainly wasnāt bad. I had a hydraulic setup on my old disc brake Rawland dSogn and it was awesome.
In this house we stan the EvoMax, the perfect short/shallow drop handlebar. Such a great shape
Round hooks to get you close to the levers from the drops, a smidgen of backsweep on the tops, some flare (but not too much), and a lovely flat transition to the levers
Strongly recommend these, the sizing is c-c at the hoods too so you can get a pair that are well and truly wide in the drops
Edit: the evocurve is actually quite a bit different- zero flare in the drops, regular compact shape to the hooks, and more drop/reach
ā¦and Iām saying youāre objectively wrong suggesting that saddle-to-bar drop is something Iām fixated about beyond using it as a topic to tease others.
Zipp SL88 run out pretty far back towards you on the bottom of the drops. Itās not something I particularly look for, but if Iām riding really far, having one more place to stick my hands for a while isnāt bad.