Did you just ShartQ?

Would shipping be atrocious? Idk if my body will appreciate those in the suuuuper wide category

it could well be. I’ve never shipped drop bars before but I bet the box would be sizable

A buddy has the crazy wide Walmers on his SS bike and they are amazing in the singletrack, but I would think they’d suck for anything else.

Where can I get jockey wheels for this dangler? They’re both cracked.

harvest pulleys from a newer dangler that has a different problem, like a mangled cage/parallelogram

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Think a 9 speed sram jobber would work?

Count the number of teeth

confirmed super wide. they’re still wrapped and oury’d and all of my metric tape measures are missing, but i got ~550mm at the hoods and ~680mm at the bottom of the drops.

Ah, thanks but that’s a bit too wide for me. Prob only a local sale unless someone really wants them.

yeah kind of an ignorantly wide bar that doesn’t seem super practical. but maybe some nutmeg-pilled local will want them

Another vote for the Rene Herse Randonneur bars or narrowest Towel Racks. (PS: I’m selling some RH bars)

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Why does nobody try to quantify braking? For decades, car magazines would just drive around, stomp on the brakes and publish the distance it took to stop at whatever speed. Maybe do it twice, maybe mention the tires and pressure, maybe not.

Huge audience, big budgets, testing standards super low.

Meanwhile nobody has ever attempted anything close for bicycles (?). I understand that to claim anything today we need peer-reviewed sanctified by a regression N=100 trials, but really can’t we just ride around and stomp on the brakes and see how long it took to stop?

“SRAM makes the best feeling brakes”

“Mechanical discs suck”

“Ice-Tech rotors actually make a difference”

“Red is more powerful than Dura-Ace”

How do you know? How does anyone know?

We got tire guys, we got groupset guys, we got general cycling guys, are there brake guys? Can there be?

Someone should buy that Monē that takes every kind of brake and use it as a mule :thinking:

Give me some numbers to argue about!

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Get Jan onto it.

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linear actuator and strain gauge hooked up to either a lever, directly to a cable, or hydraulic master cylinder; some sort of rig that takes tire friction out of the equation like a dummy hub with a brake disc

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I would bet its, in part, because you can’t just stomp on the brakes from 45mph like you can in a car without higher danger of crashing.

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We’ll need to find our most spirited riders…

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Laboratory seems enticing from the other angle. Could idealize a standard test wheel, does it even need a tire? Known friction surfaces for the rim/roller contact at X speed takes that out of the equation - or keeps it repeatable I guess. Brake system the variable, different rotors, pads, etc.

I bet spoke type and lace differences would be visible with the right equipment.

yeah it’s hard because we ride the entire system, but it’s too noisy to isolate individual variables that way

Be careful what you wish for

You must have missed when I was doing master cylinder to piston area calculations only to discover spreadsheets already containing this plus lever length

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There’s also another article of someone absolutely torching rotors. There’s a Galfer video, but I swear there is someone else that did all the major manufacturers.

Vital did one recently using brake power meters, too: 6 Mountain Bike Brakes Tested With Data - Vital Test Sessions - Mountain Bike Feature - Vital MTB

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