Gaerne owes me a pair of shoes and I’m thinking of getting these?
These look better, but they are lower on the hierarchy of their shoes and they owe me a top of the line pair for a warranty replacement.
Been a while since I have had white shoes and their MTB offerings are uninspiring.
Picked up my replacement Gaernes, finally. Went with some white road shoes because I miss having white shoes now and again.
Looking to get back into disco slippers, what’s the tarck consensus on float and midfoot, should I try speedplay?
yes to some float
no to midfoot
pass on speedplay go directly to SPD-SL
FTFY
why no to midfoot?
I really want a road shoe that is walkable with SPD cleats. The Shimano touring shoes are exactly what I want but are almost impossible to get, at least in a 43 wide.
The RT4 was perfect, but now long gone, and the RT5 is pretty thin on the ground.
Just ordered some sh-sm41 adapters to try using my racier road shoes with SPD pedals. Worth a try, probably won’t be less walkable than Normal road cleats
Bont Riot + are walkable, if that means that they have bits of rubber on the toe and heel. Also any road shoe is walkable if you shoe goo a couple pieces of old inner tube to them.
Midfoot cleat placement is like most fit “innovations”, it probably works really really well for a few people, ok for some, and not that well for most. My general sense is that if you want longer reach to the pedals, work on the postural chain that lets you get your heel down through the front half of your pedal stroke.
Float is fine, but make sure that you’re actually floating, not that float is concealing bad lateral pedal placement and angle.
I kinda don’t get mtb pedals for road riding. If most soles are more than stiff enough these days, why not use the pedals designed for the activity? For gravel/adventure, sure, nobody wants to grind off a plastic cleat walking around a campsite or whatever the hell people do when they fail to do correct/road riding.
These shoes rule. Gaerne changed their fit a bit ago and got narrower on the toe box, but I went up 1/2 size and they are great. Not as much of the slipper fit of my sworks7, but still feel really good. As stiff as I need them to be. Seem to vent well, although summer will be the real test. I like the hidden velcro that keeps the tongue centered.
I’m lucky enough that the US distributor is in LV, because although they are great, I would not have ever bought them at retail ($500).
If most soles are more than stiff enough these days, why get multiple pairs of shoes?
I put SPD pedals on my road bike for a trip where road conditions were going to be mixed road/gravel and of unknown condition. They turned out to be great with no discernible downside for me with the bonus of being a lot easier to clip into. The SPD-SL pedals were never as easy for me to clip into compared to the Look or the Dura Ace 7401 pedals that I used to own.
These look good. And available in Australia, so that’s a bonus.
My starting assumption is that people have road bikes. If people are screwing that one up, I got nothing for them.
What’s the pedal designed for the activity? If proper platform and desired float is provided, the proper pedal has nothing to do with how it is marketed.
I even raced a few crits on XT pedals and Shimano XC7 shoes. No regrets.
Also my “road racing bike “ is also my “all road bike” and it’s also my “cut through dogwood dell on the way to work and hop the train tracks under nickel bridge and scramble down the rip rap to ride the access road to bell on the way home bike”.
Oh I’m not making some 2005 Bikeforums argument about how you need road pedals for Maximum Crit Efficiency or whatever.
My thing is that if you’re riding on tarmac/asphalt/chipseal and you’re not going out of your way to do potentially unrideable stretches of dirt, road shoes and pedals work fine for the job, and in that circumstance you just don’t need an extra few ounces of tread on the sole of your shoes.
I’d definitely agree that mountain pedals (like allroad bikes) work ok in a wider range of cycling situations than do road shoes and pedals. It might come down to how often you’re seeking out or running into that wider range.
my mtb shoes are taking a shit. thinking about these:
But also, maybe just go bling?
alternately, now that I have access to shop pricing, might go shimano:
I do xc shoes do for my do-all shoes. I think a lot of the appeal is one shoe to rule them all. Given a better financial situation I’d have an sl set up for my road bike. For now I’ll carry the extra grams.
This is also me… I tried to live the different shoes(pedals) for different bikes/use and was was up to SPD-SL slippers, SPD-SL winter, XCish Spd, “Commuting” Spd, Winter Spd… but then I found a Shimano XC shoe I really like and it’s basically that, some winter waterproof 45nrth things (and some Chacos for summers on the cargo bike). I feel much less oppressed by my own foolishness.
But I do still have my DMT Flash Track shoes in the closet… just in case.