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My best understanding is the NM is more of a noodle bike for long distance comfort. CG is going to cover some more gear handling duties to be a bit of a Swiss Army knife of touring, Rando, gravel. HG is for rougher terrain exploring and heavier gear loading but not quite so overly built as a expedition rig.
Happy to be corrected, but I think this is somewhat accurate, and all the bikes have some overlap.
I think that is a fair.
I have also raced crits on my CG. It’s a road bike first a foremost. But a road bike with 700x38 or 650x48 tires is going to go places a normie road bike may not.
The new HG is lighter than the old HG but still cable of braapping some crap. Wouldn’t be odd to run front panniers, rando bag, and even a Tubus fly with some small panniers. Definitely further off road capable with 27.5 X 2.4 tires.
NM is our lightest frame. With a boxy rando bag of snacks and some fast rolling 700x32-36 tires it’s designed to go long distances with both efficiency and comfort in mind. BB drop is a bit more than the CG with all of that in mind.
HG and NM share the same low trail 70mm offset fork.
HTA the same on both?
So what your saying is I need all three.
Two out of three at least.
id love to replace my cg with an nm but it kinda seems like work to make that happen
700x38 might be my favorite tire size.
I think this is about the time when I mention that my Large, dark teal, last-of-FBM-produced-generation of H/G’s is for sale. Dent in tt, plenty of scuffs & scratches from years of use and like 6k+ miles of touring, but mechanically in good shape. Recently replaced dr hanger. Also have a 100x15 SON hub I’d be down to sell with it for a bit more.
Might try to convince my coworker to buy it from you. Not sure his budget but I’ll check with him.
Sick! I’ll probably take it apart in the next couple weeks (it’s like 90% built up rn) and take some pics. Probably looking for around $6-700 for F&F, maybe an extra $150 for the hub, plus shipping.
Hunter Gatherers - paint next. Going to send out an email and get in touch with everyone. Thanks so much for your patience.
Maybe this already happened and I missed it, the Night Moves is in the store and geo is on bikeinsights.
Announced it last night 
dq: is a 52 in the second run of elephant built coffee grinders a small or medium? the 2019 geo on bike insights doesn’t match the measurements of my 2015-16 frame, which in my notes/email is only shown as 52
Sorry I only pay attention to tarck bike social networking.
For real tho didn’t see an email so maybe I’m not on that list.
same, not in my inbox
on the grams
The Instant Graham
Would be a small.
The 52 sortof fits between current S and M. But definitely closer to S
