so you live on Hoth / don’t burn as hot as I do
I have a pair of the fully dipped ones coming, will let you know if they are more furnacey
Iff’n you have heaps, can you hold some in a ~medium sizeway for me to trade for batrape?[/quote]
absolutely
Thanks bros, just red/purple. Pretended I was playing the piano or something all the way home. My hands are too big to add liners to the xl’s; I was really looking forward to all the dexterity I had trying them on. I’m guessing probably 20 °f - 25 °f and I’m good. Back to the ski gloves.
[quote=Petr5]I must be lucky. I can count on every drop of water being frozen solid.
That looks fun as hell on the right bike.
Descente Coldout gloves, the ones that seem like they’re just thin fleece, are some kind of freaky magic. They’re good down to just above freezing for me. After that I get into combo kits. Cheap ass acrylic liner gloves under a pair of slightly over sized Mechanix fleece gloves for high 20s. Lobster claws for colder than that. Feet get old pair of neoprene booties that got cut down to spats after the zippers broke. Two thin pairs of regular cycling socks. If shit gets stupid cold, legs get double tights under wool knickers, but at that point I’ve got a balaclava on and wish I were dead. Today is the first day it’s been seriously cold. 13F right now.
ETA: the rubber grippies on the Coldout gloves work just fine on iphone screens, so probably super toxic or something.
Maybe with studded tires, Rudy. It’s solid lumpy ice.
Meant to mention my tootsies too. Louis Garneau Wind Dry SL along with a thick pair of ski socks has kept my Northwave Kameleons warm enough down to 0 °f even when I’m constantly sticking my feet in the snow to de-ice my glasses. Reviews say waterproofness sucks, but thats not a factor here. Toe wiggle room is a good tip. I see LG is making something warmer looking now and I’d probably go for that if I could do it again. Big plus is they fit both my road and mountain shoes. They don’t clear the spikes on the mtb shoes so the toe sole is wearing out after two years.
Pretty sure Rusty means hambiek.
0 degrees (-18C) is officially the lowest I’ve ridden in, though I have to say the night before felt far more frigid. Maybe it was because I was heading into the wind. On my two mile jaunt I lost feeling in my thumbs, but the rest of me basically felt fine. This was with the Endura Full Monty’s under some cheap mittens.
Not sure exactly what went wrong. I thought I had enough wiggle room in my thumb so that it wasn’t cutting off circulation, but again, it could have just been the wind cutting off my weakest member.
Apparently there is some truth to the “HTFU early on and you’ll be fine in the winter” talk from earlier, as evidenced by Inuit, aboriginal, and Norwegian people: http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/As-Freezing-Persons-Recollect-the-Snow--First-Chill--Then-Stupor--Then-the-Letting-Go.html
Yeah, in this weather, ski goggles are about the only thing I am missing, even in short jaunts. Legit brain freeze.
I found a pair of North Face electrogloves at the REI basement for $10. Definitely worthwhile at that price, but I’d think twice at $45 retail. They are wearing out pretty fast (they’ll be finished after one winter), but the touchey parts still work fine. Yesterday I wiped out and ripped the thumb of one. Whoops.
I’ve found them to be warm enough well into the 30s for my five mile commute, but I’m a really warm dude. They didn’t work on a 60 mile ride last week. Brrrrr.
As far as actually operating a phone goes, they’re fine. Typing on an iPhone keyboard is annoying but doable if you really concentrate. Fine or answering the phone or checking the weather or whatever.
I have these Capo gloves, which aren’t advertised as being touch screen compatible, but they definitely are.
Not 12°F here, but 40°F and my fingers got decidedly cold after 3-4 miles of riding through the drizzle of a typical Portland winter day. In the Ninja Ice’s favor, my hands stayed dry, but my pointer finger got increasingly unhappy with me as the day went on.
Oh well, at least it was only a $8 experiment, so if I paint liquid shrink wrap on the backs and fingers it’s not as if I’ll be out any substantial amount of money if it wrecks the gloves.
anyone have experience with gore socks?
Did about 30 miles today. Rainy and low 40’s. Fenders and mudflaps but no shoe covers. Feet got slowly soaked and real cold. Wool socks helped a little but my toes were pretty much numb when I got home.
Not 12°F here, but 40°F and my fingers got decidedly cold after 3-4 miles of riding through the drizzle of a typical Portland winter day. In the Ninja Ice’s favor, my hands stayed dry, but my pointer finger got increasingly unhappy with me as the day went on.[/quote]
I bought all the different models here except for the more expensive cut-resistant ones: http://www.fullsource.com/mcr-ninja-gloves/
I expected the “Fully Coated” gloves to be warmer and they do have thicker fleece, but haven’t worn them long enough to really tell — they give you fucking mannequin hands. I can’t make a fist in them, not usable on a bike.
These are my new jam:
Not only TAF, but the outer dip is quite different. The doesn’t have any grit in it, is more of a barrier, and holds more of a shape so the finger stays more insulated even when compressing the glove. It’s a little tough to see in the pic, but the dip also extends back over the knuckles. You lose some dexterity but it’s still good enough for bike stuff. They did seem to let water in on the back of the palm and take longer to dry, but I might have just gotten really soaked the last time I rode in them.
The “Ninja Ice” is still my all-around fave, great dexterity / warmth / breathability
The plain “Ninja HPT” gloves are pretty cool too, almost exactly the same dip and fabric just without the fleece liner and the extra elastic at the wrists. They fit a bit bigger as a result.
The “Ninja Lite” gloves are kinda creepy. The fabric is a little finer, but the dip is just straight up polyurethane and instead of being a layer on top of the fabric it’s fully soaked through it. They also seem to run a full size small, I had to wear a large. Still, I might end up wearing them with a liner glove, or alone as a barely-there summer night glove or something.
The “Ninja X” and “Ninja Flex” gloves are full-on creepy, their dip coatings stick to themselves, smell funny, and would just feel weird to ride a bike in. Not getting any more.
went on a 20deg ride this weekend, about 2.5 hours. Despite having done that temp a number of times and been fine, my hands decided to drop into total numbness after about an hour and a half. I think it may be because I was wearing less over my core and did not have excess heat there.
Six and half hours outside the last two days; Saturday windchill 0 F, Sunday windchill 22 F. Noon Sunday we got 1/10" ice balls with 4" snow by dark so unfortunately I’m back on the rollers most of the week. Don’t even need to walk outside to know continued daily highs above freezing and ice falling from the sky at regular intervals is very conducive to cars sliding into things.
Haha, just looked at the forecast and that recent favorite of the PNW, freezing fog, has been thrown into the mix.
Not a big deal for most of you, but I did 4 hours outside yesterday in 40ish and rain. My feet and hands were cold, but not unmanageably cold.
Something I’m quickly noticing, though, is that riding in the cold takes WAY more out of me than riding in warmer temperatures. I guess my body just needs to adjust to being cold for a couple hours at a stretch?
[quote=GrandmaJordan]Not a big deal for most of you, but I did 4 hours outside yesterday in 40ish and rain. My feet and hands were cold, but not unmanageably cold.
Something I’m quickly noticing, though, is that riding in the cold takes WAY more out of me than riding in warmer temperatures. I guess my body just needs to adjust to being cold for a couple hours at a stretch?[/quote]
You expend a lot of energy just trying to warm up your body while riding. So you should eat extra along the way and figure your 3 hour ride is going to be less miles/less intense than a 3 hour ride when it’s warm.
I only rode ~50 miles yesterday. I didn’t get too cold. My hands got a little cold on the way back home through the city because it was stop and go for a few miles and so I wasn’t staying as warm.
I still need to pick out some new booties. I just wore PI wool socks and gore rain booties over my shoes. Not much insulation.
I remembered why I really can’t wear two pairs of socks. I had forgotten about my specialized varus wedges I have under my foot. I have 2 under each insole cuz I pronate super bad.