I came to the same conclusion. The owner of a local shop that I’m on good terms with said I should take a class 3 Benno Boost out for a ride and I told him I wasn’t interested in going that fast.
They did buy a cable from https://ebiketuning.com/ to take the 20 mph limiter off. As I understand it, these motors can do 28 mph from the factory so it seems fine. It is a 3rd gen “performance line” motor.
I guess my main tangible question is whether 100 mile range on a 500w battery (and 30 miles on turbo) is a sign of degradation or normal.
As a tinkerer, I’d be fine with buying a new motor eventually. Seems like less than 1 bong.
Also says they replaced the front fork. I’m pretty confident in messing with suspension at this point, especially a simple coil shock.
5k is a pretty big discount from 12 or so for a new bike with the box! Difference between having a cargo bike now versus having one in 1-2 years.
I’m also not interested in acceleration or torque or going 24 mph! Would also be swapping to a derailleur setup ASAP. I dislike IGH with a passion.
Are the dropout parts for that swap available? I haven’t looked too hard into R&M support in the states.
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Probably fine. Benno rates a new Bosch gen 3 (65Nm) Boost at 25-75 miles on a 400 Wh battery and it probably weighs a good deal less.
If you do need a new Bosch battery in the future, REI sells them and they qualified for the 20% off a full price item last I checked. Still expensive tho.
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In NYC, they lowered the max speed on electric bike share bikes from 20mph to 18mph. Steve Vaccaro (the bike lawyer who has an interesting Instagram account) recommended 15mph and he’s probably right.
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ooh good thought to check out. I assume that is a non-issue, right? Can’t imagine them making diff frames for igh vs derailleur or something like that.
edit oh yeah def an easy swap Riese+Müller
I could see this going either way. I’ve got a ~500W battery on my bike. I don’t usually use max assist but if I did I think I’d probably get around 40 miles out of a charge (but I’m a wimp and I think I usually charge around 40-50% remaining). So if somebody is running higher speeds and assist than I do, I think ~30 miles could be reasonable.
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Is this about driver expectations for bike speed?
they need to scale them way back. they give novice riders way too much confidence that they can shoot a gap and that getting past everyone is the solution for everything. I think more riders on the road is better for everyone but giving people with no skills that kind of confidence and speed while they ride around checking their insta is not a recipe for success
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Seems fine tbh but if you’re only wrecking yourself I’m quite the libertarian
I am not concerned about the riders.
I’m concerned about backlash and giving the asshole driver lobby amunition
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also those garbage e-bikes that are basically silent motorcycles ridden recklessly by teenage males are a risk to everyone
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I hate to be an old bike grouch but there’s a certain amount of etiquette one should use when interacting with pedestrians and other cyclists that seems completely lost on the Pseudo 73 crowd. It’s better than giving them cars but the e-motos always end up fucking around in nice places where cars usually aren’t.
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also I will quietly pray to sweet baby jesus that your legs heal so you can ride a real bike like a grown up again.
Ugh the Lime Bike rentals here in DC recently got approval to get throttles… And 20mph to boot.
Not really. I think it’s more about the subset of riders who are complete jackasses. A lot of citibike riders on bike paths ride like they’re entitled to go whatever the bike’s max speed is (kind of like a lot of drivers) and pass aggressively. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more of a backlash.
I do find lots of the e delivery people to be a terror. White citibikes have rarely been an issue for me. But I haven’t spent much time riding around the city in the past year. I had a few months of being pissed at all the electric assholes but then I just consider that a lot of them would be in cars otherwise and all is well in the world again.
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100 miles is extremely generous for a 500wh batttery. Half of that is more realistic. I think he means 100 miles from the 2x 500wh batteries though, which makes sense.
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So if I take this person at their word, the system currently seems to function. That’s what I am simply clueless about.