Interesting hacked info is interesting.
Hey, is hacking a bad thing that is newsworthy and we should try to prevent?
Or is it a good thing because it gives clickable news?
Is it a HIPAA violation if it’s hacked by someone else?
Anyone who thinks TUEs are a way to get around doping rules hasn’t actually read the rules IMO.
Nothing juicy about finding out people have been issued TUEs. Lots of TUEs are also only approved for outside of competition also (like opoids).
They renounced some of their right to privacy by becoming pro athletes. They are essentially in the entertainment business, which involves public scrutiny and tabloid coverage of their every fart. Those who are willing to give up more of their privacy get more cash.
That said, publishing illegally obtained medical data is way over the line. Russian hackers apparently aren’t avid readers of the NY Times ethicist column.
[quote=aerobear]Anyone who thinks TUEs are a way to get around doping rules hasn’t actually read the rules IMO.
Nothing juicy about finding out people have been issued TUEs. Lots of TUEs are also only approved for outside of competition also (like opoids).[/quote]
A TUE can also be a convenient insurance policy. Are you familiar with the revelations from the T&F world last year?
This may be one of the more informed and humorous twitter discussions on the hacks and TUEs:
Preliminary report that erythropoietin doesn’t actually do much of anything for cyclists.
[quote=euclid]http://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6296/206.full
Preliminary report that erythropoietin doesn’t actually do much of anything for cyclists.[/quote]
Anecdotal evidence to the contrary:
[youtube]t8MOQuF4_BI[/youtube]
[quote=euclid]https://audaxqld.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/206-full.pdf
Preliminary report that erythropoietin doesn’t actually do much of anything for cyclists.[/quote]
ftfy
[quote=Bahamontes][quote=euclid]http://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6296/206.full
Preliminary report that erythropoietin doesn’t actually do much of anything for cyclists.[/quote]
Anecdotal evidence to the contrary:
[youtube]t8MOQuF4_BI[/youtube][/quote]
Buncha hotrods right there.
They renounced some of their right to privacy by becoming pro athletes. They are essentially in the entertainment business, which involves public scrutiny and tabloid coverage of their every fart. Those who are willing to give up more of their privacy get more cash.
That said, publishing illegally obtained medical data is way over the line. Russian hackers apparently aren’t avid readers of the NY Times ethicist column.[/quote]
Pretty sure that Simone Biles is not a professional athlete.
[quote=Petr5][quote=euclid]https://audaxqld.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/206-full.pdf
Preliminary report that erythropoietin doesn’t actually do much of anything for cyclists.[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
yeah, you can’t just inject epo and go faster. idk if those guys realize how that works. it’s supposed to give you the ability to train harder and recover faster because of more oxygen in your blood.
Pretty much the point of all PEDs.
Train harder, recover better.
Science!
I guess Sir Brad is weathering a shit storm in the British press right now. For inconsistencies between his stated anti-doping position and claim that he doesn’t use injections with the fact he took a sizable intramuscular injection of the following drug in 2011 - 2013 prior to every major grand tour for a pollen allergy:
But TUE so all good.
^For a moment I wondered how a sandwich got involved in the case. Then I realized it was a sandwich, not a sandwich.
LOL
This gets fucking intense.
[quote=ryanoceros][quote=aerobear]Anyone who thinks TUEs are a way to get around doping rules hasn’t actually read the rules IMO.
Nothing juicy about finding out people have been issued TUEs. Lots of TUEs are also only approved for outside of competition also (like opoids).[/quote]
A TUE can also be a convenient insurance policy. Are you familiar with the revelations from the T&F world last year?
I am not familiar with that. Surely there are ways to abuse the system and many are clearly documented, but leaking every person’s TUE history is bullshit, see: pictures of fabian proving he had a bee sting and needed topical ointment.
The rules need to be clarified, otherwise people will continue to abuse them by finding gray areas (like getting shady doctors to prescribe you a medication that is OK under TUE). But just assuming that everyone uses TUEs to cheating is extremely unfair.
I love this so much.
The whole deal with the TUE story is the Russian hackers are unhappy that Russia was singled out for a ban when it is widely known that pretty much everyone pushes the limits (i.e., cheats). Rich Western sponsors/backers/governments with close ties to anti-doping agencies and sporting federations get to use TUEs (and other arenas too I’m sure) to legally do shady shit because there is ample room for interpretation by well-paid docs and well-placed handlers.
I don’t know how this is far-fetched to anyone interested in cycling after years of Armstrong bullshit. Look at the Olympic medal counts and the GDPs of the countries behind them. Yeah, we just have that much more natural talent, uh-huh… Sports is business. At the highest level it is show business.
^^^ I think that nailed it.