More power babies! (as requested by turp)

My heart rate is high
I’m old
Does this mean it’s like this forever or what

When I exercise my HR is always above V3 and very often into 4-5.

Can someone tell me I’m going to be ok and as long as I keep doing 3-4 trainings a week and staying consistent?

This is one of the reasons I bought a watch with an hr monitor

Is this a recent change?

High compared to what? Your HR goes down with age so it has nothing to do with being old.

If your HR is high compared to your watts, then maybe your zones are wrong for either HR or power.

Where should HR be compared to watts? I’ve been doing the ramp test and just go with what they say

Anecdotal evidence is no? I remember hitting over 200 once and up to 190s on significant climbing efforts a decade ago

Easier to get an overestimate with a ramp test when you’ve got some experience. Do the 20 minute test if you can do an even effort that long (I know you can).

It depends on whether you are using the same # of zones. If you use 6 zones for power and HR, then you HR should be in the same zone as your power. But often HR is on z 5 zone system so it won’t be 1:1 entirely for zones, but it will be similar. .

Many HR zones set it based off your max HR. This could be 220 minutes your age, or its the highest HR you’ve seen in the last 12 months. HR is very variable so 220 minute your age might not be a good formula for you if your HR has always been on the higher side. Again, it goes down with age, so use a max HR from the last 12 months.

In my garmin app, it’s set off max HR and there are 5 zones.

In contrast, some systems set your hr on lactate threshold HR which is more like FTP. So keep in mind what it’s asking for to set these. That is something where you could use your HR data from a ramp test to estimate, but I am not sure the formula. I have only got FTHR from a 20 minute FTP test (usually take my average HR for the 2nd 10 minutes of the test).

My understanding is some people just have a high max HR and tend to run high at a given intensity. I don’t think there’s any problem with that, other than needing to adjust zone expectations. I don’t think it necessarily implies some long-term heart health risk or anything like that. Especially if your RHR is nice and low - I think a large working HR range is considered a good thing.

Through my 20s, I seemed to average about 10 bpm higher than comparable runners. Recently, age seems to be catching up with me and it’s seemed harder to really get my HR up, although this week I’ve it 185-187 twice at 10k race effort, so max is probably mid-190s still, so :person_shrugging:. Not sure I can turn my legs over fast enough to get up to the max right now!

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The 45 minute test was a breeze, I couldn’t finish the hour+ test

And what was your average HR?

What are the HR zones your watch says? If it’s a garmin, its in the app under device - settings - user settings - HR zones

Don’t have yet, just bought

Check the zwift companion app and look at the foundation from wednesday 2/1. That one killed me literally I am dead rn :skull:

So it looks like my max on those trainings is hitting 185 with averages in the 160s. I feel like 160 is high?

Evening rides are about 160 avg, mornings are lower.

Honestly I need more rides to ruin my life with data

I meant in the test - not just on all rides.

If you dont have a watch, do you have HR zones somewhere or are you just randomly determining that you think your HR is high with no basis of what the zones are?

I’ve been wearing an HR strap

That is not what I asked.

Ah
This then?

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not that i have much knowledge but maybe you’re just going too hard…i have to put in a conscious effort to do z2 efforts and sometimes it feels impossibly slow

I just checked mig’s ride and it says he spent over half his ride at 175-200w.

since his threshold was what, 224 or something as he mentioned earlier, it sounds like he is riding a ton in low z4, so only slightly diverging from his HR zones.

it sounds like his threshold HR is just higher than the zones predict. his 2x15m FTP workout had his HR at 180 by the end of the first effort and 188 by the end of the second.

so probably his LTHR is more like 175-180 or so and the zones think it should be 165.

@LASER_BEIGE when you get a watch, you can start tracking resting HR. without a base line, its hard to determine if there’s any problem. but there’s a massively wide range of what is a normal HR for some people. per that video heath or somebody posted recently, chris horner has a resting hr of like 45. mine is like 60 or so. “normal” is up to like 75. some people’s max HR is like 160… that’s fine. other people, over 200. there’s a wide range and the only thing you can count on is that it should go down with age.
figure out what your baseline resting HR first, then you can use that as a metric to determine if something is wrong, but without it, a few zwift rides doesn’t really give much to go on.

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Backing up what Amy wrote. The only indicator of fitness is resting heart rate, and even still that’s relative. Mine’s around 50, and I’m pretty sure Amy I’d fitter than I am.

Your LTHR may come down over time, which isn’t necessarily and indicator of fitness, but more an indicator of metabolic efficiency.

The percentage of threshold power to VO2Max varies a great deal between athletes and refers to the composition of the energy system being used to produce power. Different athletes may have similar power profiles and wildly different percentage of threshold to VO2Max. Athletes with lower percentages generally have longer TTE for power durations north of 20m.

Anyway, just ride more and focus on power more than HR and please figure out how to do some Z2.

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LOL Shimano still can’t make a reliable power meter:

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