nerdy and dull bike plans/dithering thrad 2016

[quote=akasnowmaaan][quote=Rusty Piton]I was thinking, should I get a 650+ wheelset for my Fatboy?
Would a 27.5x3" tire work well to replace 26x5" tire for to ride the thing in conditions where 5" tires are just extreme, ridiculous overkill?[/quote]

If you want the same BB height and lack of pedal strikes, if the bike is designed around a 5" tire, get a 29+ wheelset. And Chupacabras.

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just what in the fuck is wrong with having a wheel be the fucking ISO?! And then throwing in a tire size to specify what you got on it. What the fuck does 26+ or 27+ mean. Just say, “selling a 584x40 wheelset.” and then whatever tire size is on there. fucking 700’s are actually 622s. 26 is roughly the tire size unless it’s 26+ and then there’s no 26 to be had anywhere in the fucking equation. Oh it’s fat? don’t ya mean 700/29r/29+/go fuck yourself

fucking hell I hate bikes

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[quote=JUGE FREDD]Ultegra is a little smoother for a couple dollars more

AFAIK Dura-Ace only makes the pins hollow

the KMC Missing Link is a great way to join them[/quote]

Did you notice that the new 105 chains have the sil-tec coating too? I honestly don’t know what the difference is.

Where did you see this? Sil-Tec is not mentioned anywhere on Shimano’s 5800 page, but it IS mentioned for 6800.

It would be weird for Shimano to offer Sil-Tec at that level, because often that is the only thing which differentiates between 5800 and 6800.

i’ve got ~12k kms on an ultegra chain. it hasnt been shifting the way it is supposed to for probably the last 2k though

[quote=JUGE FREDD]Ideally you’d be able to find one of these jawns and get rad without needing a pie plate cassette:


This in 46/30 is what I’m looking at, new for 60$ plus 30$ for the BB. http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/cranksets-road/gossamer-pro-abs-bb386evo-2-2-2-2/

Seems unbeatable at the moment, I’ll probably upgrade instead of buying chainrings.

As for 10 vs 11 speed, I’ll be buying new Force 22 hydraulic brakes and levers, so I should conceivably be able to choose between 10 and 11. But yeah, it looks as though there’s no large difference in price between the two. Think I’ll need 11-36 or should 11-32 be fine?

Where did you find that for $60? I have been waiting patiently for FSA to sell those damn things at retail.

how much are you going to carry? you weigh half a kg more than nothing so i’d say you’re fine with 46-30 / 11-32

Where did you see this? Sil-Tec is not mentioned anywhere on Shimano’s 5800 page, but it IS mentioned for 6800.

It would be weird for Shimano to offer Sil-Tec at that level, because often that is the only thing which differentiates between 5800 and 6800.[/quote]

At the bottom of the page?
http://bike.shimano.com/content/sac-bike/en/home/components11/road/1051/cn-hg601-11.html

Ahh, it’s on the chain page, but not on their pop-up link from the 5800 page. Anyway, that’s interesting and I wonder what the difference is now between 105 and Ultegra. Did they start using Duralumin on Ultegra?

probably because it says “coming soon”

This has been my experience as well

Never broken a quick link. Fucked up a few Shimano pins out of stupidity.

I do like quick links for the few times I’ve broken another drive train component and needed to run chainless the rest of the “ride” and forgotten to bring a chain tool in my pack.

[quote=akasnowmaaan][quote=Rusty Piton]I was thinking, should I get a 650+ wheelset for my Fatboy?
Would a 27.5x3" tire work well to replace 26x5" tire for to ride the thing in conditions where 5" tires are just extreme, ridiculous overkill?[/quote]

If you want the same BB height and lack of pedal strikes, if the bike is designed around a 5" tire, get a 29+ wheelset. And Chupacabras.

Chart:

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man I have been looking for something like this for SO LONG

might switch up my plans for the Wednesday to 29 plus instead of 27.5 now to avoid dropping the bb… but that might actually be nice. hmmm

I think the 105 chains might have a coating on the inner links, but not the outer ones

[quote=Patch][quote=JUGE FREDD]Ideally you’d be able to find one of these jawns and get rad without needing a pie plate cassette:
http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/cranksets-road/sl-k-light-adventure-modular-bb386evo/[/quote]
This in 46/30 is what I’m looking at, new for 60$ plus 30$ for the BB. http://www.fullspeedahead.com/products/cranksets-road/gossamer-pro-abs-bb386evo-2-2-2-2/[/quote]
I bet you’re actually looking at a 46/36 set which is a garbage product for cyclocross, drastically prefer a 50/34 to that

11-32 is totally fine, could do a denser 11-30 or less if you manage to swing 46/30 chainrings

Yeah Patch, I was just looking at the screenshot you sent me, and it’s for a 46/36. I presume the price is low because FSA is blowing them out, 'cuz they suck and are planning on selling lots more subcompacts.

god the industry wasted so many years on 46/36

perfect for all the competitive grass crit cyclocross a few thousand people actually did

it’s the dirt equivalent of road bikes with matching-ramp 53/42 rings, perfect for office park crits and Florida

[quote=blackholelectron]man I have been looking for something like this for SO LONG

might switch up my plans for the Wednesday to 29 plus instead of 27.5 now to avoid dropping the bb… but that might actually be nice. hmmm[/quote]

The 27.5+/29er thing isn’t quite right, in theory they should be alike but 27.5+ is ~3/4" shorter than 29er the way it shook out… it seems the tires came out a bit smaller in practice and have less firm sidewalls so they sag almost down to regular 27.5 x 2.4 tire sizes. Also, 2.8 are the best for shredding, and the 3.0-3.25 are kinda fatbike-bouncy, so 2.8’s are winning out and they’re on the small side. (Ibis published a bit screen on this for their Mojo3 release.) It’s enough that companies like Santa Cruz and Pivot explicitly build that hight discrepancy into their bikes, with either a shock adjustment (SC Hightower) or adding a 17mm shim under the headset (Pivot Switchblade).

But, on the fat side, I can say personally that the 29+/5" fat match is bang on.

And nobody gives a shit about 26+ except Surly.

And this chart doesn’t show that a 4" fat tired bike is really close to a 27.5+ bike - a much better match than 29er, really. Lots of people on Bucksaws throw 27.5+ wheel sets on in the summer.