i actually am thinking of 3t arx team stem and dorico team seatpost. ltd might be a little more ballin outta control than i can pull off unless i piece it together ever so slowly
you can’t get shit from q thu race pace anymore or something?
[quote=tehschkott][quote=that guy][quote=Reasonable Facsimile]Swapped my saddlebag support for one of the new Bagman 2 supports (from Carradice). Saddlebag is from Dill Pickle Gear.
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At that point just get a rack. Panniers = weight lowwwww[/quote]
I see where you’re at, but I disagree. I think that’s pretty dope. How do you like it?[/quote]
It works really well. I had the previous version of the Bagman support, and it was prone to flex/sway. The new version is both lighter AND stiffer. The stays/rods are too long, so they’ll get cut down.
I actually prefer a saddlebag over panniers. I’ve ridden with rear panniers, front panniers, and Carradice-style saddlebags, and the saddlebag has worked out the best (at least for me).
Why? What benefits does it have over a pannier?
Whatever it’s other uses, it looks perfect for carrying a bundle of firewood or a 20L dry bag.
The saddlebag seems to have less effect on the bike’s handling. It probably doesn’t matter (considering the overall weight of the bike/gear), but it’s also lighter than a rack/pannier combo. Getting stuff in/out of the saddlebag is also easier than with, say, an Ortlieb-style pannier.
Weight is centered over the bike a little more. Slightly easier access to the contents.
I dunno. I had one for a while. I found it a little too twee and annoying.
I’ve always been curious about the Tout Terrain Sherpa:
I wonder if a sewn sleeve or some other attachment on the back of a messenger bag could be combined with something like the Sherpa’s rack or the Bagman 2.
The saddlebag seems to have less effect on the bike’s handling. It probably doesn’t matter (considering the overall weight of the bike/gear), but it’s also lighter than a rack/pannier combo. Getting stuff in/out of the saddlebag is also easier than with, say, an Ortlieb-style pannier.[/quote]
This has been my experience as well.
Revelate Viscacha by tehschkott, on Flickr
Are you telling me that that Revelate saddle bag is easier to access than an Ortlieb pannier?
While riding or just in general?
Because there is no conceivable way to get into either while riding.
Sup '84 720bro!
What rack is that?[/quote]
Front: VO Passhunter with integrated decalourrrr
Reer: Tubus Cosmo SS
[quote=Rusty Piton]Are you telling me that that Revelate saddle bag is easier to access than an Ortlieb pannier?
While riding or just in general?
Because there is no conceivable way to get into either while riding.[/quote]
The Revelate has a small outer pouch attached to the top for quick access to small stuff. To get into the main compartment you’re right, it’s just as difficult. But the other points still stand.
Bonus points, it needs no metal frame so incurs no frame weight penalties - bag is semi-rigid and needs none. This also means it’ll fit on practically any bike with a saddle and seat post where a pannier requires gear to work.
sram?[/quote]
It’s a race bike, you should put the shittiest group on it you can since it should see pavement a couple times a year if you are doing it right. Save the Campies for those of us who are slow and fat.
The weight of a saddlebag is centered right below the rider’s center of gravity, pretty much, and so the handling of the bike is reasonably preserved. A set of panniers and a rack are completely different in feel, partially because you can put more shit in them, and mostly because they are hanging out somewhere aft of the rear axle. This is why I hated commuting with panniers at first. Now, just meh. Would rather use a big saddlebag, but they are mostly green canvas and leather for the shift-with a stick crowd.
Hey guys, you know what works pretty well?
A fucking backpack.
BAN
yeah the relevate saddlebag is particularly good at nixing the “tail wagging the dog” feeling you can get from panniers
out of the saddle it feels weird man
it’s not worse than the weirdness from panniers, but it is still a little fucked in its own way
Huh.
I ride with a single pannier every day.
Never noticed handling being affected at all.
Maybe I’m just used to it.
if you put 20lbs on the bike
you will notice it
doesn’t matter where you put it
keep the load reasonable if you don’t wanna fuck with the handling too much
i also ride with a single pannier on the rear
no big deal if i’m only carryin light shit
if i gotta take my ulock and then load a pannier or two up with groceries
well i’m gonna expect that it’s gonna handle weird