I put 20lb in my damn backpack, it doesn’t affect my handling but it affects my fucking back.
It’s a different feeling, but I can totally feel a difference mountain biking with a full bag/camelbak vs. no backpack. Weight distribution is all different.
Better on my back than drooping down from my front.
I max out my rear rack (40lbs) in one pannier a couple times a week. Shit handles weird, but still way nicer than any amount of weight on my back.
I carry two paniers just to make the weight distro pretty even because then the bike handles less strange. Rode with a saddlebag today cuz paddywagon has no rack, and it messed with the handling of the bike much less than a rack + panniers on my cross check.
up front w/ low trail blah blah blah has been my best experience
normal load weight feels neutral.
but I dont like to talk about it.
Switching over to Ortlieb panniers made a huge difference to how a full pannier feels on my bike. It just stays nice and snug to the rack, totally eliminating any swaying. I completely fill one pannier everyday with clothes, shoes, ulock, lights, etc., and I really don’t feel like I notice the weight. That said, I do notice the difference if it’s full of heavy stuff.
Can everyone stop talking about how they carry their stupid shit and post some pics of their stupid bikes already?

20 lbs low in the rear makes my riv handle better than without anything on it. any weight up high is a nightmare… or it really sucks not to be able to let your hands off the bar when riding for hours.
[quote=blumpkin]up front w/ low trail blah blah blah has been my best experience
normal load weight feels neutral.
but I dont like to talk about it.[/quote]

with the lowtrailbro prereqs, up high doesn’t matter so much until you get ridiculous
like a case of beer and a bundle of firewood on top of the front wheel while you’re throwing the whole business around switchbacks descending on singletrack (not that there’s any better alternative in that case short of a highend backpack + a cruiser)
though it doesn’t really make it easier to ride no hands with a non-trivial load, just less of a deathtrap
[quote=jimmythefly]I’ve always been curious about the Tout Terrain Sherpa:


I wonder if a sewn sleeve or some other attachment on the back of a messenger bag could be combined with something like the Sherpa’s rack or the Bagman 2.[/quote]
My inner physicist is borderline terrified of the stresses that seatpost are going through.
But it’s probably fine.
But what if it isn’t?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
My 1957 Cinelli finally got finished on the weekend. COTR DLYF
180mm Cinelli branded cranks by Magistroni


I bought it five years ago from a guy in Colorado who paid $40 for it! It pays to wear a Cinelli cap when buying a car, apparently. It had a mangled dropout and a hole in the downtube and everything apart from the wheels was original.
Brian Baylis replaced the tube and dropout and painted it. Local guru worked magic on the bottom bracket and cotter pins to make shit work. It was a long process but whatevs, it’s done now.
Rides great, shifting isn’t that fantastic. Yes, I have the original pedals but I’m going to leave ATACs on for actual riding. There’s about a million more pics here:
http://s729.photobucket.com/albums/ww292/sir_kevinwulf/Cinelli/?start=0
Tarck is about running ATACs on your meticulously restored reenactment bike.
I like it.
Also, sickass bike.
Tarck is about running ATACs on your meticulously restored reenactment bike.
I like it.
Also, sickass bike.[/quote]
I should have said I’m actually gonna use either ATAC or Look road pedals for riding, depending on how much walking I gotta do but you get the idea. Clips and straps gtfo. Also, thanks!
ATACs and Vittoria 1976s for my refinished Frezoni. FGM. Jeff’s red 76s would be even better for that bike too.
Been getting out in between rain storms. Tubulars should be arriving soon, so that’ll be an interesting endeavor. Will for sure be Guyshoeing when I get them set-up.
[quote=E-ROCK]Still need to wrap the bars and dial shit in. I need a 10cm Salsa quill stem if anyone has one. This one puts me out too far. I think I’m going to like this bike a lot.
[/quote]I’ve got one of these. You will like the ride.

Finished, except for fenders, rack, dynowheel, and lights by Tysasi, on Flickr
After cooling my heels for a couple of weeks, I finally got all of the parts I needed to assemble my youngest son’s hopefully rando bike. The frame/fork/headset, of course, used to belong to Toast, but the rest of the parts were either pulled out of the used parts bins at the Community Cycling Center, purchased from Universal Cycles (my LBS, even though there are about 150 bike shops between me and their storefront,) or auctioned from ebay.
I’m going to need to braze fender eyelets and rack mounts onto the fork, fender eyelets onto the rear dropout, and some sort of wire guides so I can get dynamo power to the (to be added; I still need to make a bulk purchase from star bike) taillight without the forest of zipties that decorate the midlifecrisismobile and trek.
Note that there is plenty of room to add fenders, though I may have to buy 26" fenders and lovelycycle them to a 520mm radius to do so.



