Daily commuter with thousands and thousands of miles of multi-day bike camping trips over the last 12 years? And a three week tour I did with ortleibs?
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I’ve found that ortlieb panniers are great until you form more opinions on what you really need. Then you get arkels.
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Mostly I’m thinking you ride a front loader with a front bag, and a whippy one at that. Sort of the opposite of the usual nude beach touring load out.
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Hey @Emor_please, you still got that briefcase pannier laying around?
You have strange opinions.
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Let me unpack my statement
Dry clothes are great
But waterproof goes both ways
On a long trip, I put my wet clothes in the bag. Everything got damp and wet. I would get puddles at the bottom of my pannier after 6 days in the rain. The waterproofness did not result In a drier me.
Instead, I now place my clothes in an ultralight waterproof compression sack that I then toss into a non-waterproof pannier.
This has many advantages — it keeps my clothes separate from my junk. I can segregate fresh clothing from dirty clothing. I can remove the whole sack and toss to my sleeping area, unpacking instantly while leaving my pannier and other gear on my bike.
On summer trips where rain is rare, I use an even lighter stuff sack for clothes, so I’m not hauling waterproofness around for no reason.
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Basically me except I got lone peaks cuz cheaper and MUSA
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Have loved my Ortliebs but I will admit to being curious about other bags.
This is neither here nor there, but the learning curve on the bags on my Big Dummy is insane. I get that they wanted them to be very modular but holy shit
Yeah this rim is proper fucked. Does WTB warranty garbage like this? Had to put a tube in again to leave the woods.
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CUM-X3D
technology
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Day1 of new tires. Second time someone referenced the CUM prominently written on the sidewall.
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It’s likely that sealant and air is entering the rim somewhere else.
Any non-welded rim that is properly taped bead seat to bead seat should not leak.
Any non-welded rim that is leaking from the seam likely has a compromised tape job.
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Tape looked good when I swapped tires but I’ll re-tape it. Next logical step I suppose.
What tape?
How wide?
You should be using 34mm tape with that i29 rim. WTB has started shipping rims with a plastic strip that sits in the channel as well. This is to help keep the tape from slowly deforming at the spoke holes and to prevent the tape being pierced from the inside if a spoke breaks. For older rims I put a 1/4” strip of gorilla tape down in the channel as a substitute for this. Then tape with the recommended width tape.
If you’re using something narrower and not to the same spec as TCS or Stans tape you’re asking for trouble on a non-welded rim.
Right now it is whatever tape presumably came from the factory on this wheelset when it shipped with the bike. I’ll see if I have the proper width around.
This leak started when I flatted a few weeks ago. Thought I had destroyed a tire. Today I was practicing, uh, hucking off a rock on a downslope, and the 5th time I landed, the thing started spewing sealant and would not stop. I suppose i could have dislodged some tape but I’m also running tire inserts and it just didn’t seem like a big impact.
Thudbuster does rims now?
Oh yeah you borked it.
Tape looks pristine btw 
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It’s what’s holding the rim together
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