i kinda wanna campy-ify a bike (which i don’t even own yet) for randonneuring purposes, but i think this route would be a lot cheaper (already have a shimano wheelset, much easier to find shimano cassettes with big cogs, etc etc). not sure yet if i want a triple crankset, or if a 48-34 compact (which I do already own) with 12-32ish cassette would do the trick.
so… judging by that page, 10s levers with 8s cassette works just fine; or, a 9s cassette with hubbub routing. anyone have experience with either combo?
also, does this just leave you with one or two “dummy” clicks left in the lever?
how about on the front end? i have a spare record FD which should work fine with the compact sugino crankset… but, hypothetically, which campy 10 levers would work with a triple crank? (if that’s complicated, i wouldn’t be opposed to just having a friction DT shifter for the front)
uh… yeah. chime in. help a brother out. oh, and buy my crap in the marketplace to fund these sorts of plans.
i’m using 10 speed campy levers rowing 9 speed shimano everything else. works a-ok. there isn’t a dummy click unless you have your limits and cable tension whack. i do notice the front derailleur does have a fairly high lever throw though, ratios may be askew here, but works fine. as far as triple, no idea.
I’m using Campagnolo 8 speed shiters and derailleurs with Shimano 7 speed cassette. Feels good man. Worked perfectly the first time I put the wheel in.
Also, I prefer Shimagnolo but I know it’s a subjective thing.
DQ: Do Veloce shifters have the cool semi-indexed front shifting like other campy front shifters, or is it the lame two or three click shifting like Mirage?
This one is not as good the Veloce shifters shift one click at a time from low to high and the FD does not have the infinite trim making it tricky for certain mid casette positions.
I originally did this to go to a 1x8 on the cross bike but the Record shifters were too nice for cross, so I bought the Veloce shifters since I really like the cables out of the way and the QR on the levers for the cross bike. Other big plus is all 4 bikes have the same hood shape 2 with ergos and 2 with tektros.
[quote=deadforkinglast]This thread is relevant to my interests.
DQ: Do Veloce shifters have the cool semi-indexed front shifting like other campy front shifters, or is it the lame two or three click shifting like Mirage?
No hub bub just slapped together and go, it was actually easier than the straight Shimano 8 speed set ups. Oh and apparently Campagnolo 11 shifts shimano 9 perfectly and 10 with the hub bub.
Only weird thing is that some universal shifter cables fit right in and others need a little filing of the cable ends. I’d buy campy specific brake cables though because they need a lot of filing (I’m cheap and didn’t want to pay double for Campy cables).
I’m also rolling on 10 on 8 shimergo. No complaints except that Veloce front shifting has only a few clicks and seems to pull somewhat too much cable for a shimano fd. Solution: get record.
Ok, so 2011 veloce shifters are labeled “power shift.” what does that mean? Cool campy front shifting? Or am I just reading into this what I want to hear?
“Powershift” is the new “QS Escape” — TOTAL BULLSHIT
They detuned the lower end shifters so you can’t shift as many gears at a time and the trim is all fucked (especially with a triple). Do not buy, just get a higher end set used.
Been riding your Tachyon, and it’s a perfect candidate for it. It’s currently 8-speed Shimano 12-26 with a road triple 30-42-52. Pretty damn awesome as-is now that I’ve fixed the BB length and front derailleur setup.
The current Sora shifters are kinda poor-man’s campy with the thumb lever. I can’t reach them that great in the drops because of my huge saddle-to-bar drop, but they might actually do you ok.
Shimergo would only require swapping the shifters and get you baller status, multi-thumbshift, fd trim, better reach from the ramps and drops, a brake qr, and hidden cables for a handlebar bag (biggest reason to do this randowise).
You just get two extra clicks that the RD upper limit screw keeps you from getting to.
All non-bullshit campy 10-speed levers work great with triples, there’s a shitload of clicks there — lots of cable pulled and in small increments for ideal trimmage.
[quote=scrub]No hub bub just slapped together and go, it was actually easier than the straight Shimano 8 speed set ups. Oh and apparently Campagnolo 11 shifts shimano 9 perfectly and 10 with the hub bub.
Only weird thing is that some universal shifter cables fit right in and others need a little filing of the cable ends. I’d buy campy specific brake cables though because they need a lot of filing (I’m cheap and didn’t want to pay double for Campy cables).[/quote]
shimano cables will sit out and generally not get jammed in the hole on new shape levers, on the older ones, shimano WILL jam. fwiw it’s worth, all my campy bikes are cabled with whatever i feel like, generally sram or jagwire housing with jagwire cables and no problem, the nicer jag stuff anyway.
i’ll be selling my ultra shift ergos very soon, they are the older multi click non bull shit. can’t say i know how the front works with triple, just that there is no bullshit here friend. i have the early gen which are a lighter click, more shimano like, then the more pronounced detents of other campy.
Fred KILLING it again with the bike knowledge. Sweet.
Last question, though… which levels of Campy are non-bullshit? Veloce (and Mirage, and anything below) are bad… Record and Chorus are good… what’s in the middle? Probably Centaur… Was there an Athena 10?
Fred KILLING it again with the bike knowledge. Sweet.
Last question, though… which levels of Campy are non-bullshit? Veloce (and Mirage, and anything below) are bad… Record and Chorus are good… what’s in the middle? Probably Centaur… Was there an Athena 10?[/quote]
for new shape campy, all dat shits the same pre power shift. old shape, it depends on the year. anything not escpae is hunky dory. i even use bullshit xenon on my cross bike and it’s works fine.
“Powershift” is “escape” under a new name but supposedly its not as crappy as the old escape shifters but seems like most campy enthusiasts are avoiding it.
I did the shimergo thing with 10s record shifters and 9-speed ultegra rear der, with the cable routing thing (which is really easy).
I had some issues with it but I never really determined if my shifting problems were due to the campy/shimano mix or the wrong pulleys on my derailleur (bottom half of the cassette was a no-go area in the small ring).