Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

tehschkott · August 18, 2018, 2:49am

EndpointBraden · August 18, 2018, 2:57am

Ghetto is indeed short hand for “poor/black” in too many instances.
Keep dirtbags out of this.
It’s “cheapskate tubeless” or possibly “dumbass tubeless”.

tehschkott · August 18, 2018, 3:22am

So pejorative!

Crustradamus · August 19, 2018, 3:12pm

A ghetto isn’t a poor place. It’s a place you can’t escape.

russ · August 20, 2018, 8:46pm

Just put a fresh pair of 26 x 2.1 Tioga Powerblocks on my commuter
very glad I didn’t spend the extra $100 for compass
these things rock

theKearney · August 21, 2018, 2:44am

Ratchet Tubeless

Crustradamus · August 22, 2018, 9:37pm

Had some blood coming out from the side of my thumbnail from trying to get the air bubbles out from under this 3M tape. Highly unpleasant–Gorilla Tape sure was easier in that regard. Wheel sealed up same as usual with 2 wraps, which seemed like an adequate amount of wraps.

tehschkott · August 22, 2018, 9:49pm

What the fuck are you DOING? Stretch, tape, stretch, tape, stretch, tape. I can’t even get my head around what you must be doing. I mean, sure maybe use a Pedros lever to make sure it seats up against the sidewalls well sure, but I mean…

Crustradamus · August 22, 2018, 9:56pm

I was rubbin’ it down with my thumb in the channel son. stretching just makes it hang up in the air as I squish it and causes more air bubbles. actually letting off the pressure was far better in terms of air bubble creation.

also this 3M shit doesn’t really stretch.

tehschkott · August 22, 2018, 9:57pm

Hunh. I’ve never had that be a thing I guess.

Crustradamus · August 22, 2018, 9:59pm

maybe your tape usually doesn’t sit on the bead shelf? mine certainly does in this case.

anyway, just working with a new material. I’ll figure out how to not bleed eventually.

EndpointBraden · August 22, 2018, 11:09pm

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Rusty_Piton · August 22, 2018, 11:21pm

I’ve also never had excessive bubbles in my 3M tape and must conclude that you’re doing it wrong somehow.

ergott · August 22, 2018, 11:29pm

Sometimes the rim tape won’t lay all the way into the center channel and you get air pockets. If you try too hard you end up with sore finger tips. I would just do the best you can and once a tire is all installed it’s a non issue. If you really want, install tire with tube first time with a fresh taping.

Crustradamus · August 23, 2018, 5:00am

I don’t know if they’re excessive, but they’re bubbles. I can push them to the spoke holes to make them go away.

Did the front wheel today and had a maybe 3 spoke hole area where the tape didn’t want to adhere very well. I probably should’ve wiped the taping surface off with alcohol first.

Both wheels set up easy peasy.

PS here’s the gorillatape coming off. I don’t know what some of you were doing to make this a mess (carbon vs aluminum rims?)

EndpointBraden · August 23, 2018, 10:07am

There is some variation in how messy it is. I’ve seem it leave way more residue.

On the bright side after it’s washed with dish soap and hot water Stan’s tape seems to stick to the gorilla tape adhesive residue just fine.

Use the install with tube trick on that 3m stuff. It will definitely help get some of the bubbles out.

Rent-to-own-Faxmachine · August 23, 2018, 1:31pm

Giving the Vee Bulldozer another try.

Crustradamus · August 23, 2018, 2:35pm

I thought about it but didn’t feel like adding a step. Will see how it holds up.

frank_doktor · August 23, 2018, 3:47pm

Yeah, we are the instant gratification/ I don’t really want to wait for shit to be better people. I have done the tube thing once or twice, but when I get a new wheel or tire, I just want to get it done. Almost always is fine.

I noticed that BTI is pushing this TESA tape on the homepage.

todd_bonzalez · August 23, 2018, 3:57pm

That’s hilarious. If I ran a shop, I’d be buying Tesa or Scotch strapping tape by the truckload. Stan’s for retail and the bulk stuff for service.