Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

[EndpointBraden]

You might die. Or not.

[jeffro]

Probably a case where I should just put sealant in the tube.

[spaghetti]

tarck is about dithering when better options exist. come on now folks.
congrats to heath for actually making our special rim special again

[halbritt]

@EndpointBraden

You might die. Or not.

Best advice.

[VT_regularbike]

Have had much success tubelessing rhyno lites in the past

[cookietruck]

@karl_dandleton

this. if anything, do just the rear for a while, and try to land bunnyhops kinda sidewards and stick with that for like a month before trying the front

and definitely put a helmet on!!!

[Rusty_Piton]

Oh boy, here we go again…

[ergott]

@iwillbe

I’d love some side-by-side comparisons of 28-30mm tubular vs tubeless on the same bike around the same time, from someone who’s not being paid to say nice things about any of it.

The pros are starting to use tubeless, but that’s probably coming from sponsors.

I keep meaning to try 28-30mm tubular. I can say that 25mm tubular rides better than anything similar in size from tubeless or clincher.

[ergott]

@iwillbe

I’d love some side-by-side comparisons of 28-30mm tubular vs tubeless on the same bike around the same time, from someone who’s not being paid to say nice things about any of it.

The pros are starting to use tubeless, but that’s probably coming from sponsors.

I keep meaning to try 28-30mm tubular. I can say that 25mm tubular rides better than anything similar in size from tubeless or clincher.

[iwillbe]

I’d be curious about that. I definitely don’t know much about tubular, but I’m curious.

I also am pretty sure that I can go way lower pressure with my current road tubeless setup, like 58psi on a 25mm rear. Gotta watch out for train tracks, but what else is new.

[ergott]

Took road bike to D2R2. Front was a Pirelli 26mm tubeless. On a descent I was braking and hit something in the road hard enough to snake bite. It was a pretty hard hit. Needless to say my ride was compromised and I pinch flatted 2 more tubes. I just couldn’t reliably ride as fast downhill as I could with bigger tires. I’ve done similar descents on 25mm tubular and it didn’t happen. I can’t say I do it very frequently so it’s not a very large data set.

PS - I was running 60psi and the tire measured 28mm on a Boyd Altamont alloy rim. Pirelli 28mm didn’t clear an Enve road fork, too tall whereas I could fit the Zipp 28mm I had before it.

[iwillbe]

Huh, yeah, that sounds like the outer limits of what I’d expect a nominally paved surface bike to handle - by road are we talking tarmac, or road like the D in D2R2?

I got a sidewall puncture in a 25mm tubeless Pro One this morning, I must not have milked the tire up enough, because it didn’t seal properly. I subsequently learned that if you use a Dynaplug on a bike with rim brakes, you really need something to trim the plug down, or you experience what I did: a tire that holds air and a nonstop taptaptaptaptaptaptaptap from the plug end hitting the caliper.

Still though, two minutes of stabbing and pumping is waaaay better than more minutes of replacing a tube.

[jdsmooth]

@iwillbe

two minutes of stabbing and pumping

lol

[iwillbe]

ah geez I’m a real innocent, it didn’t register as being open to a saucy interpretation

[BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS]

is this the first ever nutarck double post???

[crowding]

@EndpointBraden

It’s all fun and games until you burp off a Compass tire going down a hill and eat shit.

This is how I retired my previous helmet.

[Orc]

@EndpointBraden

It’s all fun and games until you burp off a Compass tire

So the lesson here is “don’t buy Compass tires?”

[iwillbe]

If memory serves, Compass was offering sorta-tubeless tires for a while, and was serving a customer base that was pretty into diy tubeless setups on non-tubeless rims.

Add in some spirited multi-surface riding, and you got a one way ticket to tire failure

[ergott]

@iwillbe

Huh, yeah, that sounds like the outer limits of what I’d expect a nominally paved surface bike to handle

Oh I was certainly out of the normal limits. Loved the way the bike handled outside of the flats. I was certainly faster than most setups up and down hill. Fun passing cross bikes on jeep track with a road bike.

[halbritt]

They claim they’re “tubeless compatible”