Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

A bad idea we can’t quit. No one else is crazy enough to use so little rubber in a sidewall.

I’ve always been able to mount CX cushes with bare hands. RTFM though.

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I find myself underbiking more often lately and is where these problems have manifested. On pavement and light gravel the G-One speed tires are fine.

Lately I’ve been doing a loop from my house that is basically 2-3k rolling feet of XC trails.

Still boggling at how readily they roll at 45PSI though. I occasionally run my 30mm Challenge Stradas that low and those are fine.

Did you see the bicycle rolling resistance test of the G-Ones?

The G-One Speeds are all V-Guard-ed now so they have a layer of Turdlon :tm: in the casing

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I may have accidentally discovered an antidote to drought conditions in California. Order a set of tires optimized for dry conditions and get an unseasonable week of rain in the forecast.

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I’m on a pair of G-One Speeds in 35 at ~40psi f/r and I kinda hate them. They grip fine on pavement and light grave, but they just ride like garden hoses. All I want is something as smooth as a RH, I can’t quit them.

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My experiment with the paper weight Hutchinson XC tire has come to an end.



I got prob 200 miles before some rocks did it in. Replaced with a Maxxis Aggressor which should play much better with my new local trails.

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I like these tires very much. Successfully completed a climb that I dabbed on twice last week for traction reasons. Though it was wet today vs dry then, but I felt way more confident on the seat 45PSI. Eyeballing tire drop, that or ~50 might be right for pavement. I wager 35 is fine for mostly offroad.

I spite of being “dry” tires these worked pretty well in the wet. They also handled a 40mph descent on damp pavement just fine. They feel reasonably supple. Went on reasonably easily, required a compressor to seat. They did seat with little drama after a couple squirts if air. Didn’t have to remove the valve core or any other antics.

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Those are the more supple ones too. Sidewalls are a tad thinner than the black/anthracite version. Vittoria doesn’t do the best job differentiating, but you definitely got the best riding ones.

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They definitely feel it.

I have heard this about the larger G-ones from a very “unsubstantial” rider.

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So I decided to go with Runnies in 55 mm endurance casing and I bought the smart seal shizzle

I will almost certainly regret this

The thing I like about the runnies, apart from the ride, is they go off and on the rim so easily. Probably not a “feature” if you run tubeless tho.

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It’s a feature of Panaracer-made tubeless offerings. Go on real easy the first time but will never seat tubeless again.

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Yep… takes some special magic to make that happen.

In preparation for my vacation capstone ride I removed my 28 mm Schwalbe TT tires for the winter and popped on some Enve 31 mm tires. When I say popped on I mean it, they went on easy, held air without sealant, and there was no sidewall or bead leaks after adding sealant.

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What rims

Look at you, doing tubeless tires with no drama.
All it took was abandoning the absurd attachment to well marketed Panaracer made garbage!

Well coincidentally I just got back from riding those Enves and my god they are awful. I am sure part of it is that I went from literally the fastest or second fastest tire available (Schwalbe TT) to something quite turdly. Enve of all companies should not be making turds.

Nevertheless I am going to leave them on all winter. When I was a swimmer we used to wear loose knee-length shorts over our Speedos for resistance, I kind of have the same theory here, if I ride these all winter and then switch back I’m going to be super fast.

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