oh you’re right!
Yup
At least 3/4 as badass looking. You’re right about the rim profile though. Looks kinda ridiculous.
There’s a 40 mile flat loop that I do that’s maybe 70% gravel. I’ve done it on a road bike with 30s, a gravel bike with 38s, not this bike yet. Imma do the Pepsi challenge on that loop between these and the Tufos and then maybe the 32mm gp5k I ordered. It’ll be an interesting assessment of speed vs comfort.
Even though I ate shit on some single track that I really shouldn’t oughta have been on, I think these will serve me for what I wanted. There’s lots of double-track stuff in the hills above my house in which I’ve struggled on climbs because of traction or keeping my shit together on the descents. Connecting all that stuff with the bits of pavement between should be good.
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I don’t think you can get 2x with 2.1’s without the marketing people redifining what is an acceptable level of Q-factor again ; )
Tread is overated. I bet those things will roll faster than WTB Horizons and feel way better.
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but mine is 2x with the GRX cranks, which is a little wide, but not crazy.
I’ve read that this is a problem with some tires, maybe due to release compound. Maybe would help to wipe it out with a solvent and scuff it up a little if the Orange Seal doesn’t do the trick.
BRR says they’re lower rolling resistance than the GP5k for the same pressure. Not that you’d run these at similar pressures but they’ll go to 65 max, and I’m curious to try something high, like 40 or thereabouts.
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I’ve got enough Stan’s boogers in an older set of rat traps that I can vouch it sticks to reens
Sorry, I meant for 29ers. @Crustradamus mistook your wheels for 29 I think initially.
I guessed that was what you meant.
I’ve used it with some success in reens. Working on a theory that it has to do with tan vs black
Way late to this but thought I’d add a pic of my bike with those tires.
I slashed one playing a bit too fast and loose on a very rocky doubletrack descent. TBH they’re a tiny bit too fat for this frame, if there had been any mud on the ride I would have been in trouble.
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Incredible spread from Vittoria here, this tire actually goes from 31-622 through 622-57, hitting almost every ISO size on the way.
Other manufacturers are getting in on the action too and 2023 looks like some amazing fill in for the 700cx42-50 range, truly salad days for big tires.
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I cant’ wait to hit up all the double-track stuff around here on 'em… Maybe I’ll lay off the DH trails.
scanning all the tubeless woes, who here has gone in on any of the new fancy tubes that have been out there a few years now? curious to hear opinions
i’ve been slowly growing weary of the downsides of tubeless systems and the thought frequently crosses my mind to try ditching the sloopy juice altogether
i had some schwalbe aerothan tubes on my road bike for a minute before i sold it when i was running some old archetype rims, and while i didn’t get a ton of miles on the setup it was rad to have cheap and light schwalbe and conti tube type tires feel like they could punch up without fucking around with latex of any sort
seems more of a no-brainer for the commuter when paired with the appropriate tires. more complicated matter on the mtb where i run an insert in the rear to help keep rims alive a little bit longer
Counterpoint: I recently replaced a tubeless tire on the rear of one of my bikes(they’re all commuter bikes) and pulled 18 pieces of glass out of the tread, all of which had poked all the way through the casing and been sealed. I only had to stop once in the life of that tire to fix a flat which I did with a Stan’s dart and was back on the road in like two minutes without removing the wheel.
That’s 18 tubes that I didn’t have to mess with on the side of the road in 37f rain or whatever.
So yeah, I’m keeping the soup.
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This is me every time I replace a worn out tubeless setup. All the initial dithering sucks, but amortized over the number of non-flats it’s a win.
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Agreed with all of this. I like choosing the time and place that tires are annoying.
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Most of the recent tubeless woes ITT are mine and are entirely the result of the fact that I’m happily buying and testing the most delicate tires on the market on a quest for maximal souplesse. These are tires with delicate casings that would be murdered by the wrong piece of glass whether or not they had a tube in 'em. This is compounded by the fact that Oakland is truly covered with glass.
Lessee: I went on 174 rides in 2022, 281 in 2021, and 133 in 2020. That’s nearly 12k miles, all tubeless and I’ve had less than a dozen flats. I had a set of GP5k that I wore out over something like 3000 miles that when I removed the rear had a bunch of pieces of glass in it. I never once had to plug that tire. I wore out a couple sets of Challenge Strada Pro, though they only last a little over 1000 miles. Yeah, I’d say my woe:mile ratio is pretty good.
Only thing that would have me running tubes would be a bike that I wanted to keep around that I didn’t ride very often. FWIW, I’ve ridden latex, which is good, but annoying in that it has to be aired up every time you ride, TPU, which isn’t special enough to justify the cost, and butyl. If I were going to run tubes, I’d probably use the Conti race variety, but I’m not sure that would solve the problem of not being delicate.
Agreed. My road bike that’s up at my folks’ place in Wisconsin was flat as hell last time I looked at it and the beads seemed to have dropped because sealant had leaked out all over the place. I’ll stick tubes in there if I ever ride the thing again since it gets used like three times a year if that.
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