surly has an ET in 46mm that is tubeless and I’ve had good experience with
DTH’s. And I’ve got most of a gallon of finish line soup I use in my tubes that has been good if you’re down here and want a couple squirt
Whatever Schwalbe marathons take your fanxy with slime tubes would be most flatproof and field serviceable. Not the low rolling resistence option but ebike so dgaf about that.
DTH are nicer riding but no antiflat barrier and thinner sidewalls, I’d leave them out of contention if flat resistence is the priority.
Yeah this is for the electric cargo bike. I think DTH are a little flimsy for that.
I’ve got a DTH on the front of the Spicy Curry, seems to be going just fine.
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Y’all see this guy:
I think that’s my next tire.
Still waiting on the back ordered GP5k AS TR that I paid for two years ago.
Edit: the gumwall version, which I’m pretty sure doesn’t exist.
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Me too. I’ve been trying to find them in stock for months and finally they showed up at R2. They’re still on the way but I’m expecting them to unseat the pathfinder pro as my go-to tire immediately.
Might even kick out the GP5000 AS 35 too, given the BRR result.
Hutchinson stopped distribution in the US about 5 years ago. The Override is my favorite tire, but I don’t really want to spend Euros on them.
Sounds like a challenge
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Why not?
There’s still deals to be had, in the Old World
Bike tire websites/marketing materials remain the worst possible written and presented resources in the industry.
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People that are enthusiastic about riding bikes are the worst at doing business around them
honestly they’re the worst out of any product I’ve ever bought. youth cross country skis are in second place. they don’t tell you any information other than the length of the ski, which is effectively useless.
I replaced most of my tires last Jan/Feb with “better” options so here’s some random notes from how that went:
Gravel:
Tufo Thunder 700cx48 - Feels fast and seemed to be actually fast. On the softer side of supple, slightly undersized on i21 rims. Grip in dry and wet was good, not great. Puncture resistance was poor, had a puncture and cut sidewall at ~30 miles and then ~800 miles. Would have been on the podium without that puncture. Sealant start spotting through the tread around then as well. Went back to Pathfinder Pro 700cx47, won’t buy again.
Continental GP5000 AS TR 700cx35 - Feels very fast and actually quantifiably fast. Not very supple, true to size on i21 rim. Grip in dry and wet was incredible, among the best of any tire I’ve ever used. Puncture resistance is good, had a very small sidewall cut in hazardous conditions I’ve suffered the same previously but nothing else. Durability for gravel is ok, there is some skinning of the area between sidewall and tread typical of continental tires but probably exacerbated by unpaved riding. Tire is going fine ~1500 miles no weeping/etc. Will buy again.
Oddly, this tire is available in a reflective sidewall version and the non-reflective version has the reflective band, but it’s painted over black.
Gravel/MTB
Thunder Burt Super Ground 27.5x2.1 - Fast, supple, this is a well known tire. Feels good on pavement. Slightly oversize on i20 rim. Grip is good, breaks away predictably and is overpowered at the front for gravel riding compared to more typical sizes. No punctures, no cuts, lugs are worn but in decent shape ~750 miles but sealant spotting started shortly before. Will buy again.
Thunder Burt Super Ground 29x2.1 - Same as above but less durable and slightly undersized on i21 rim. Feels ok on pavement. No punctures, no cuts, tore a lug off on the first ride and the tire is wearing very fast despite same use profile as the other TBs. <500 and it’s showing more wear. No sealant weeping/etc. Might buy again, doesn’t really fit my use profile.
Thunder Burt Super Ground 29x2.35 - Slightly oversize on i24 rims. Used these for actual MTBing. Feel terrible (slow) on pavement. No cuts, no punctures, lugs are in the best shape of the three TBs. No weeping/etc ~750 miles. Traction is ok, not good in front, break away predictable but often too early. Harder to tune pressure and the spring curve or damping doesn’t feel as good as Mezcal. Won’t buy again, worse than Mezcal for MTB. Too big for Gravel, speed might be there but it doesn’t feel like it.
I’m very disappointed in the Thundero since it cost me a great placing and a small amount of cash, but happy with how the other tires performed even if some I won’t buy again. Next year I’m going to try Race Kings, the new Mezcal and the Caracal Race.
Interesting
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I was waiting for these for a while and then they showed up at BRR and look pretty slow
The 40 mm version of the Pirelli P Zero Race TLR has grown not only in size but also in tread thickness and tread puncture resistance. We see the tread thickness go up to 3.6 mm from 3.0 mm for the 28 mm version and 3.2 mm for the 32 mm, and we see the result of this in the rolling resistance tests where the 40 mm is the slowest rolling P Zero Race TLR.
There is probably a structural reason for the increased thickness, but we’re disappointed that the 40 mm version is becoming more of a fast touring bike tire than a big road bike tire.
GCN reviewed these and the vibe was that they were unnecessarily slow, as per the BRR thing. They didn’t come out and write them off totally cos I think they’re sponsored by Pirelli…
Ah that’s a bummer. Was hoping to hear they were making some fast floaty rubber. I wonder if this is a weird initial attempt to get into some e-bike market.