Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

a group of experts of sucky bikes

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a group of dunning-kruger beginner ā€œexpertsā€.

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lowest common detarckinator

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The mistake was buying Panaracer tires rather than DTH like dog intended.

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Definitely got suckered in by the aesthetics.

I’ve been a fan of Maxxis in general for a very long time, so I’ll likely give those a shot at some point.

Why do people not like Panaracers though? I always thought they were decent overall.

DTH:BalloonyPanaracer::BedOfPillows:Concrete

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inconsistent tubeless performance

i feel like i’ve had better luck than most but i’ve still had one or two supposedly-tubeless panarancers that simply would not seal

if you don’t care about tubeless i don’t think there’s anything wrong with them

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Went on a mostly pavement ride today on my new 50mm Pathfinder balloon tires, but screwed around a bit on some little hiking trails.

Despite how heavy the tires are, I went up our local mountain and didn’t seem to suffer any time penalty. I’ve done this climb a lot and 245 watts always produces a 16-17 minute time depending on wind and I ended up at 16:30 for today’s effort.

Going down was interesting though. It’s a twisty descent and 40mph is not difficult to hit. Once the wheels start spinning up past 20 mph or so the rotating weight becomes really apparent, and steering effort increases a lot. I’m kind of wishing for 5-10mm more offset in the fork.

Crazy amounts of grip in the corners though. I didn’t push it all that hard but I wouldn’t be surprised if I start setting descent PRs soon.

Off road grip was pretty great as well. I was a bit concerned with the center slick section that I would break the rear wheel loose on roots but the tires impressed me a lot!

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Are you able to measure the width? Everything I’ve seen has me convinced that on narrower rims i18-i21 or so the 50mm is a direct replacement for the 47mm. Curious about your rims and width.

I’m overstocked on the older model which is a little annoying as the newer model looks like it has better tread pattern. No complaints with the more feathered older style, but better is better.


At the moment: 49mm casing width on a 22mm internal Hunt 4 Season all-road at 30psi.

I only have about 20 miles on the tires so far. Right after mounting they were 47mm at 40psi so they’ve grown a little bit.

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