Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

They have an actual squirrel graphic on them. How could Andrew Squirrel resist?

I actually am seriously curious about these tires. Are they made of paper and fairy dust? How do you get a 38 mm tire to weigh 280 grams?

I just put on a pair of the famous world’s fastest tire in 25 mm sizeway; it weighs 250 grams (of course it is intended for tubeless use).

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/vittoria-corsa-speed-2016

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lol it’s 240g!! even more ridiculous

I have their Cerf’s 700x28 (the heavy version, not the EL) on my Somec and they are indeed some of the greatest round creatures ever to roll over asphalt, pair them with latex tubes and feel invincible.

The “32” mm (actually 34 on my rims) Hutchinson Confréries weigh 280 grams and a 38mm Flat Magnet weighs 270 grams, so I could see getting another 30 grams of weight reduction by being stingy with the rubber lining & tread thickness on these Grand Bois thingies.

30 grams lighter than a flat magnet is pretty seriously in the whoa race only department, because I’d imagine they go flat if you scowl at them.

But it has a squirrel on it, is that because you’d have to be nuts to put these on your bike?

I have to admit I kind of love the graphics on the sides of some tires, and I’ve been known to avoid tires with ugly sidewall graphics. I like the old-school looking ones or the stamped ones like on FMBs.

Probably because they ride they ride super squirrelly with lower pressures.

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Flat magnet = nomad?

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Pari-Moto. For me, Nomads eat a piece of glass or wire pretty much every 500 miles like clockwork until they wear down to the point where they’re unsafe. Pari-Motos will, for no apparent reason at all, go into a spasm of flat after flat after flat regardless of the road surface (I’ve done fast gravel populaires on them without a lick of trouble, and then had them go completely to hell trying to do errands around town, and I’ve also had them say fuck you and do random flats on the same gravel I rode just two days ago without incident.)

Can confirm. Ordered them 10 days ago and they came today. “We had a technical issue” they responded when I emailed five days after ordering. I’ll try to get them on for my commute tomorrow. They have more tread than I really want but for $20 each I’ll try them.

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One of the new knobbies from Teravail. I went with black sidewalls this time.

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Can report that the Swifttires are much more supple than the ancient Cheng Shins they replace. They went on a tiny bike so I can’t really judge the handling or anything but they felt nice enough anyway. For a $20 do-it-all tire I’m happy enough so far

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Just mounted the Swifts and fresh on a very wide rim, they’re measuring 44.6mm at the casing. Sold as a 2” tire.

Rode better than I expected. No buzz despite the tread. Definitely wish they were higher volume (gonna have to adjust fender line), but overall very good st $20 each.

Mine arrived yesterday too. A little slow to get them shipped but not a big deal. They are odd - big thick knobs and supple everywhere else. I haven’t mounted them but they seems good for a $20 city tire

I’ve been riding them for nearly a year and yeah, they’re fine. Better than a $20 retail tire should be, honestly. I just wish they would issue this same tire with no tread and in a true 2.0 sizeway, and then they would sell dozens of them.

that’s sad. Gonna look for something wider with smaller knobs

Vee Speedster?

Yeah, the little wheel + big knobs + skinny tire + goofy fender line is resulting in a dumbass looking bike

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I am surprised that nobody has said anything about the whole Enve/Challenge thing, with Enve claiming that there are now certain tires that are unsafe to use with any rim, and Challenge claiming that their tires are safe to use with any rim but Enve. And Enve apparently suing Challenge now? And some suggestion that any tire with cotton sidewalls is unsafe, but apparently Specialized are fine? I am very confused by this whole thing.

And Enve released their unsafe tire bulletin only to dealers and registered owners instead of making it public.

I’m not that worried about it since I ride cotton sidewall tires (with latex tubes!) with Enve rims and I haven’t died yet.

It’s not exactly this forum’s preferred bike equipment. I read the exchanges from the various companies involved a couple of weeks ago, if memory serves Challenge claimed that Enve’s rims have a sharper outer edge than most?

Enve published this in the middle of their pushing a lot of semi-technical info out there, it seemed as if they were trying to get an edge on public expertise about tire- wheel interactions beyond this one case.