tandem posse rolls hard

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In the same school of thinking, different saddle where the rails are closer to your ass? Different seatpost with lower profile clamp?

But finding shorter tandem arms will be difficult/expensive.

Could always set it up with an igh (or 1x5/6/7) and run regular cranks front and rear.

got a solution mostly worked out.

swapped saddle for flite, bought me a few extra mms

moved the eccentric from like 4 o’clock to 2 o’clock so same chain tension but higher crank position

yee almost ready to ride. sarah (gf) isn’t sure if she wants risers (what it came with) or some drops like the short n shallows on her xcheck.

woop woop

today i got lined up with a stoker (woo!) and we got to use a DA-equipped 853 perkins that won a couple of medals in the atlanta paralympics. some of the most enjoyable riding i’ve had in a lonnng time

also riding a 60k next weekend with the same stoker

keos going on before next ride

^^^^ short stoker is short?

PS, someone make an offer on my C-dale.

is little girl?

also i got dem same rimz.

short stoker is 5ft, i’m 6ft
bike was built for female riders

cxps ballin hard ano

bump cuz sneaky vike and amy and josh need to get ITT

i made the swtich and am now stokin’ hard. i don’t like it too much, but am at least flexible enough to handle a scrunched/upright position, and the lady seems to enjoy captaining. we need to swap the cinelli 66-40/dia compe non-aeros for something closer to what she rides on her surly, though.

^awww yeah. i figured a thread of this nature existed.

so glad this worked out! :bear:
looking forward to doing a long ride this weekend. ej even picked up a yakima tandem tray that had been at the shop for uh like 7 years. so we’re planning to go to take 'er out to the rail2trail to get in some miles. after our short ride a few days ago my hands were nearly blistered from the aggressive braking errr…gripping the hoods wishing i was braking…so hopefully i can relax and get used to it. sometimes when ej is driving the car i can’t help but let out a little scream, so clearly i’m not the calmest passenger. but, i think this will all work out. it has to. we’re pretty much committed to doing a century on 6/20.

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so glad this worked out! :bear:
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Just remember, EJ doesn’t want crash himself on bike or car but what’s even more important to him, he doesn’t want to crash you!

<3 <3 <3

When we were considering this, I found a lot of web pages talking about what it means to be a good captain. And by good, I mean trustworthy. fortunately you’re an avid rider, but you guys are traveling faster than you’re accustomed to plus you’re not in control. Most of it is just about the captain riding very predictably (and safely) to build trust. The century is gonna be awesome. So jealous.

From Sheldon.

The Captain

The front rider is commonly known as the "captain." Other names for the front rider include "pilot" and "steersman."

The captain should be an experienced cyclist, with good bike-handling skills and good judgement. In the case of a beginning team, a the captain will need to use a bit more upper-body strength than is needed for a single bike. As the team learns to work together, this will become less important.

The captain has two major responsibilities:

    * To control the bike, including balancing it whether stopped or in motion, as well as steering, shifting, braking.

    * To keep the stoker happy! A tandem isn't a tandem without a stoker. The captain must earn the stoker's confidence, must stop when the stoker wants to stop, must slow down when the stoker wants to slow down.

      Since the stoker cannot see the road directly ahead, the captain has a special responsibility for warning of bumps in the road, so that the stoker can brace for them.

      When a couple fails to make it as a tandem team, it is almost always due to either the stoker being scared as a result of an incompetent/inconsiderate captain, or due to saddle soreness.

The captain should also warn the stoker of shifts, especially shifts to a lower gear which may cause the stoker to lose balance if they come without warning. (Very experienced teams eventually get past the need to call out most shifts, as they learn each others' styles.) 

The Stoker

The rear rider is commonly known as the "stoker." Other names for the rear rider include "navigator", "tailgunner" and "rear admiral" or "R.A." The rear rider is not a "passenger", but is an equal participant. The stoker has two main responsibilities:

    * The stoker serves mainly as a motor. Since the stoker is not called upon to control the bike, this rider should be able to actually generate more power than the same rider would on a single bike. Depending on the strength and endurance of the stoker, this may take the form of a steady output or may be held in reserve. If the stoker is acting as a "reserve," it is OK to take it easy for general cruising, so long as the stoker can help out with a burst of power for the climbs. Since starting up on a tandem is a bit trickier than on a single, the stoker should apply as much smooth power as possble when starting up, to get the bike up to maneuvering speed quickly.

    * The stoker's other major responsibility is a negative one: The stoker must not attempt to steer! Unpredictable weight shifts on the part of the stoker can make the captain's job much harder, and can lead to crashes, in extreme cases. The stoker should keep in line with the centerline of the bicycle, and lean with it as it leans through corners. When the stoker needs to shift position on the saddle, or adjust a toe strap, or take a drink, it is vital that they do so without disturbing the equilibrium of the bicycle. These activities should not be attempted at all while the captain is dealing with tricky traffic situations or narrow spaces. 

The stoker can also do a bit of back rubbing now and then, as well as taking photograhs, singing encouraging songs, reading maps, etc. 

The Team

The team becomes more than the sum of its parts. An experienced tandem team develops a very special level of non-verbal communication, via subtle weight shifts, variations in pedal force, and general empathy.

After a few hundred miles together, you will find yourself coasting at the same time, shifting without the need for discussion, and and maneuvering smoothly even at slow speeds.

This is not just a matter of each rider acquiring captaining/stoking skills; when two equally experienced teams switch stokers, something is lost, and this special communication doesn't happen...it really is unique to each couple. 

http://sheldonbrown.com/tandem.html

oh yeah, I’m in this cru! (eh, posse)

we took it out for a very short ride. it was definitely a little scary, with the weight.

couple things with the set-up:
-the brake levers: the right has two cables which control the cantilever brakes. the left controls the drum brake. I was reading bf tandem section, and they were talking about setting up the drum brake on a friction thumb shifter, to set it on hills instead of grabbing brake.
-the bars: there’s like 39cm bars on front and Specialized Santana 46cm bars on the rear. I want the bigger bars up front for steering/leverage. are the wide bars there to accommodate my big ass being between them?
-shifting: six speed index shimano 600 downtube shifters: holy shit I was scared to reach down. I can see why you’d want STIs on a tandem. I don’t think I can upgrade past 6 speed cos drum hub. maybe mount shifters to bar con pods? any other suggestions?

I pretty much ride solo from the back

all up in this posse with fucking streamers on. what?