the look out honey coz im usin technology aka the garmin/powertap/srm thread

[quote=truckdoug]he4th i am loading all the rides with power into GC, but when i got to the performance manager that chart is blank. is there some set up i must do somewhere else to load data into that page?

and i don’t know what that second question means. i am unaware of any other FTP viewing than looking at my CP chart and that little dotted red line[/quote]

I googled for the formula to calculate starting LTS (aka CTL) which I don’t recall exactly, basically the number of hours you ride for the last three weeks divided by 7 or some such. The third or fourth link was “training superthread”. I lol’d. There was a whole lot of “Dr. Wikipedia” which made it even funnier.

Doug, do this: Go into GC and look in the preferences menu. If you’re on Mac OS, this is in the “Golden Cheetah” section on the menu bar up above. Click on “Athlete” and then select the “Power Zones” menu. There you need to add your CP with the from date of your earliest ride. We’re going to assume that CP (FTP) hasn’t really changed much since you started. From this point forward, getting CP and the “from date” correct for where you’re at is crucial for performance manager to be accurate. You need to re-test FTP every 6 weeks or so. Assume you set your CP now, and you go in and set a new CP in 6 weeks, if you don’t get the “from date” correct it will re-calculate training stress to be lower for all your earlier rides. Also, this field will get filled in by the “save CP” button on the critical power chart. You don’t want to update your CP very often as it’ll throw off your performance manager. If this doesn’t make sense to you now, don’t worry about it. Just set your CP and we’ll revisit it then.

Once you have your CP set, you’ll see data in the performance manager chart. Now is we need to estimate your starting LTS. You’ll have to recall how many days per week you were riding before you started collecting data. Let’s assume you were riding 5 days per week. Look back through your data and pick a ride or three that is similar in terms of length and intensity to the ones you were doing then. Say, one 3hr group ride, and a few other rides of various length and intensity. Get the bikescore from those rides and divide that by 7.

Say you had two easy rides at a 30, a couple of mediums at 70, and one at 150 given you a total stress accumulated in that week of 350, divide that by 7, and that gives you a stress score of 50, which you can use for starting LTS. Typical starting LTS scores are 30-50 unless you were training a lot. Alternately, just tell me what an average week looked like before you started training with power and I’ll estimate a number for you.

At this point, you want to go back to the preferences menu, select the athlete, item, then select the “performance manager” tab and put a number in the “starting LTS” field around 30-50 as I described. Then close that window and go back to your performance manager chart and you should see numbers for STS, LTS, and SB. Once that’s all established, we can work from there.

To write out this wall of text, I had to install GC and load some data. Now that it’s installed, if you’re inclined, you can start emailing me your power files. I can load them, check your work, and give advice as necessary.

ok, will do tonight.
today’s 2x20s went really bad. felt like i had one baby leg or something.
did one at <300w and went home.
i knew this would happen eventually, but i had no idea how bummed I’d be about it.

[quote=truckdoug]ok, will do tonight.
today’s 2x20s went really bad. felt like i had one baby leg or something.
did one at <300w and went home.
i knew this would happen eventually, but i had no idea how bummed I’d be about it.[/quote]

Yeah, that happens. It’s a good thing in the sense that it means that you’re maxing out your capacity to endure training stress and recover. However, it is hard to take when you can’t hit the numbers you’re hoping for. Take an easy day, eat and sleep right, and start again fresh. Also, send me your files.

ok, emailed ya the screenshot. be patient as I’m really out of it lately.
super stressed out over other life-crap
my average weekly riding was around 12-15 hours until school started. mixed riding, all group rides with other cat4s and some cat3s.
pick an LTS number and we can dial it in later.
also, i’m unsure how to email garmin files…

[quote=truckdoug]ok, emailed ya the screenshot. be patient as I’m really out of it lately.
super stressed out over other life-crap
my average weekly riding was around 12-15 hours until school started. mixed riding, all group rides with other cat4s and some cat3s.
pick an LTS number and we can dial it in later.
also, i’m unsure how to email garmin files…[/quote]

I’ve got plenty of patience. Sorry about your stress, man. I know the feeling. Get as much sleep as you can.

What happened on October 30? What’s the bikescore for that ride? I’m going to setup a file uploading service on my web server tonight or tomorrow so you can upload all your files.

ok, thats the day i got the spike. i thought i deleted the spiked one, reloaded and edited it. instead its doubled :frowning:

i have a lot of trash files (warm-ups, 2 second “oops” etc…) any clue how i can sort through for stuff 12 min and longer?

well dagnabbit, i fixed it again. still says bikescore is 302 and the PM has that big jump
it was a 50 miler in the rain, minimal climbing but a pretty good pace

I’d have to take a closer look at it. Bikescore of 300 should wreck you for a while. Depending on the pace, could be accurate. Good news is that it won’t have that much of an effect.

so i think i figured out my problem
last saturday i replaced the NDS bearing in the hub–it was destroyed and barely moving. i dont know how it didnt seize and spin on the axle.

then i forgot to recalibrate

doesnt explain my intervals at +310 tuesday though :frowning:

Weird. Isn’t your PT only a few months old?

yeah, its a POS though. i bought it because the bearings sizes were pretty decent for a 15mm axle. turns out it uses 6802 for the non drive. thats like a RC bearing…

bump
start of a new training block.
went out with my puncheur friend and got my ass kicked

cp by wheat flakes, on Flickr
ill get my tuesday 2x20s, but thursday ill skip coz outta town
i’m off all day friday. i could get something longer in…or should i do thursdays 2x20s?

You could try an SST ride. 90+ minutes at 260-270w. Shoot for 90m at a minimum, 120m would be good and 180m would be epic. I’m going to start loading your power files today. How many days a week are you riding now? Ideally, you’re on the bike for 6 days with one of those being a “recovery” day.

damn. i seriously don’t have that much time.
i get 2x20’s tuesdays and thursday mornings some easy spins on weds and fridays and usually a fairly decent ride on sunday.
oh and commuting about 12 miles a day in sneakers, lol

winter term should be much better for riding, but the weather woln’t be
considering joining this cycling specific gym close to my work
$50 a month and they have cycleops trainers and an insideride

If that’s the case, it might be worthwhile to move to 3x20s and maybe some longer SST rides to keep your TSS up. That’ll make for a good “base”. Hopefully, by spring you’ll be able to devote a little more time to riding.

jesus, 3x20 at or near ftp ? i can barely talk after two

That’s correct. Try the SST first.

Did this happen?

no, i got stuck in eugene on friday :frowning:
got a pretty good effort today and ill give the 3x20 a try tuesday. next sunday if its nice i’ll do another ride with my bros, and an sst if its crappy

Given the number of days you have to ride, I’m thinking you’re going to need a steady diet of SST to accumulate much training stress. Call it base building.