You stupid fucking frat boy piece of shit

[quote=littletinyfish]RadioLab had an utterly amazing story of love and recovery after a bicyclist was hit by a truck. I was at work listening to this doing ads for these lame ass commercially available off brand Jell-O shots with tacky rainbows and stars and shit, the most douchbaggy concepts you could imagine, with tears streaming down my eyes praying that nobody walked by to question what the hell was wrong with me.

It’s an hour long episode and while the last half of the episode features that story the whole podcast (and the whole of RadioLab in general) is worth a listen.

It’s called Lost and Found: http://www.radiolab.org/2011/jan/25/[/quote]

Yeah, I listened to this t’other day and just about started sobbing.

without going into specifics, he did all the lawyering for our street v. the city re: utilities for a few bottles of wine and cookies. plus respect from everyone. he’s asked me several times if i need a lawyer, talk to him first. guy is a fred commuter and all around pretty ok. except when he is blasting stevie ray vaughn or some other classic rock icon loud enough for us to hear it 3 doors down. which, in itself is kind of awesme, but SRV, rite?[/quote]
haha i <3 ginsberg, coolest mother fucker in portland/lawyer collarbo

It’s not Ginsberg, though everyone I’ve talked to recommends him but nobody has actual experience with him.

Michael

I dunno why you ignored my post.

I was hit by a car. And used Ginsberg as a lawyer.

there are no mentions of ginsberg or lawyer in this post.

Friday night I was hit on my bike by an automobile that made a last minute left turn in front of me on Holton and Glover, just at the top of the Holton bridge. I pay close attention to all aspects of traffic, including oncoming traffic, for reasons like this, but he didn’t give any indication he was turning (like, ya know, a turn signal). Plus this particular area was well lit; I had little to fear.

That is, until he turned into me. It was probably close to a 20mph hit; there are no traffic controls between North Avenue and the end of the bridge, so there is nothing to slow you from going the full 30mph. I knocked it down a few because he was turning.

I laid on the ground dazed and winded. It felt like I had been punched in the groin. The guy kept apologizing and agreeing that bikes and pedestrians had the right of way, and that he wouldn’t be fighting the ticket/insurance/lawyer, etc. The person in the car with him was trying to reassure me that my bike was okay, but I replied that “I do this for a living so I’ll be the judge of that,” knowing full well that there was no way my bike got out unscathed. One of the guys said the wheels weren’t bent, but they’re low end Alexrims, and I doubted him, too. The assailant also started to claim that it was I who hit him. “You know that’s not true,” I begged to differ. Once he said “even though you hit me” my mind flashed back to a recent Spokesmen podcast where James H. Moss, a recreational lawyer said “The first person to call 911 is the story that usually takes precedence.” So he says “even though you hit me” and I just instantly grabbed my phone and called 911, thinking, “Oh know, I’m telling this story.”

My biggest complaint is that witnesses don’t stick around. They think their job is done when the police show up, but that’s the time they’re needed the most. If you witness an accident, PLEASE take one piece of information away from this and STAY ON THE SCENE. Offer the victim your information. FORCE the victim to take your information, because it is important.

Nevertheless when the police officer arrived he was very much on my side. When I explained to him that I had lights (front and rear) and brakes (front and rear and foot) and a helmet, and bright clothing (the bright yellow scarf Morgan knit for me) and in a well lit intersection. I explained to him that he didn’t signal and I was going uphill against the wind that there was no possible way I could have produced enough momentum to run into this car. He agreed and said the guy would likely receive a ticket. He later met up with me at the hospital and gave me a bunch of information and told me to call him anytime.

My friend Marcello booked it down and brought me to the hospital. I checked out the groin pain and the pain creep that was starting to take over my body. My fingers wiggled and my toes wiggled. I could move my knees and shoulders, though they were aching. A headache was coming on and there were light scratches on my back. Everything basically checked out (as in no broken bones), but they guaranteed me a great deal of pain in the next 48 hours and drugs to help keep that under control. We’ll see what niggling issues further develop.

So, long story short, I appear to be relatively fine (for now), but my bike is not. You can see in the photo above how bent the fork is. The fork blades should follow the natural angle of the headtube. Below is further detail of the skewed angle of the fork blades in the following picture. This is what I call “Proof that he hit me.”

The fact that I fell to the side and didn’t go flying over the handlebars is further proof that it wasn’t me causing the accident. Here is perspective without the wheel. You can see the dropouts bent at a slightly funny angle. You can also see the bottom head tube crown has been knocked loose, which I fear is an indication that this bike might be totaled.

I should be able to put my finger between the chain stay and the crank arm, but this is not the case.

Bent fork:

More bent fork:

I’m not entirely sure if the headtube is fucked. I still really want to believe that I can still ride this bike, but it looks like it might be bowed out ever so slightly:

Sadly, my Alexrims stayed god damn true.

There is still some hope. I’m taking it in to a shop to discuss it further. Perhaps I can just replace the fork and crank and everything will be fine. This was the first bike I ever truly loved and I nearly cried when I looked it over. I had big plans for this girl as time went on. Getting rid of the ridiculous colored crap, adding hoods, maybe even re-painting and re-decaling it to restore it to a more pristine former racing glory (although keeping it as a fixed gear).

Damn it all! But the oxycodone is working wonders…

Do not ever expect to ride that frame again, it completely toast. Fuck headtube ovalization, the top tube and downtube are gonna be curved/rippled and will fail later.

Why do you give a fuck about putting it back on the road cheap anyway? You’ve won the pain lottery — frat boy piece of shit’s insurance company is buying you a brand new ballermobile!

You need an insurance estimate. Pretend you didn’t take the thing apart (that was a seriously terrible idea). Find a very nice LBS, preferably a low-volume one with really good mechanics that sells mostly new bikes that they build up themselves (mega bonus points for also being a custom frame shop). Bring a six pack.

Yeah, there’s no way in hell that frame is ridable. Sucks man. :frowning:

Listen to BlazedElf and get a good estimate/buy nice new bike.

Really sucks man. Glad you seem ok and let this be a lesson that you never have “little to fear”. Cars are out to kill you.

This, and keep us updated on how everything pans out.

That sucks ass man, glad you’re okay and hope you get your new bike soon! welcome to the immortals club

[quote=Buffalo Bill]Do not ever expect to ride that frame again, it completely toast. Fuck headtube ovalization, the top tube and downtube are gonna be curved/rippled and will fail later.

Why do you give a fuck about putting it back on the road cheap anyway? You’ve won the pain lottery — frat boy piece of shit’s insurance company is buying you a brand new ballermobile!

You need an insurance estimate. Pretend you didn’t take the thing apart (that was a seriously terrible idea). Find a very nice LBS, preferably a low-volume one with really good mechanics that sells mostly new bikes that they build up themselves (mega bonus points for also being a custom frame shop). Bring a six pack.[/quote]

Yeah. That bike is fucked.

Amazing you didn’t break anything, but it still sounds like it will suck. Take care of yourself, try to recover, and take the advice above re: your bike.

Dammit, Jason! This is not cool. Stay well, man.

Haha, love this.

To be clear, I didn’t take the bike apart, the shop I took it to did. But I’ll be taking it to Ben’s Cycle this week and see what they say. I got friends there and they will know what to do. I didn’t honestly expect to be able to ride the bike again, but I guess there was a part of me that wanted to believe because this was the first bike that really made me fall in love with bikes. I’d had a couple others before, but this one fit so well and was just so easy to ride that I didn’t want to let it go.

Tarck is the slap in the face that I needed to get excited for the open field of new opportunities.

im sorry to hear about your bike and your wreck. glad you were wearing all the safety things you had. try to get phone numbers of witnesses if possible before they leave.

i was hit on friday evening, driver turned from the center lane across the right lane and bike lane, i was unable to stop.
here’s what i did to his car

i just had xrays because i think i broke a couple ribs.

it was light out, but there was no way he could see me because he turned in front of another car. he didn’t inch out, he just accelerated.

This thread has not only helped to convince me to be a more aware/law abiding cyclist but also made me extremely thankful for the quality of drivers around here. In two years of riding my bike as my main mode of transport in an urban enviroment, I’ve had like 2 close calls and never been hit (knock on wood).

Get a lawyer. A bike-specific lawyer if you can. It’ll take a long time. It took my friend about a year to get a settlement from her first accident and is still waiting on the last two (which got progressively worse). She’s still out and riding in the meantime.

Waiting sucks and paying a lawyer sucks, but it’s well worth it.[/quote]
I was hit, got bike lawyer, she took care of it. took awhile, but it was done[/quote]

i contacted mark ginsberg today. i’ll update as i learn more.

Not going fast enough

Not going fast enough[/quote]

There’s probably some truth to this. I think a major cause of car/cyclist accidents is drivers (if they are sober and paying attention at all) grossly underestimate the speed of cyclists. They just have no frame of reference.

How many drivers who have right hooked cyclists just assumed once they passed them before the intersection they would never catch up to them? Probably a lot.