All things NuMTB thread, now lower longer and slacker

130f-120r is a bit more XC, but still fun, capable. Uses twinloc so can lock out and cut suspension easily. full 12s deore.

Marin Rift Zone is a fun trail bike, also 12s Deore, bit more travel than Scott. Evo has a large at same price.

Carbon dang good deal for small and medium

RM Element. More akin to the Scott Spark. So peppy and capable for exploring.

RM Instinct bit more travel if you want some extra cushion

Maybe Giant Trance 29, too. 130/115. Really fun bike that a few tarckers (including me) have/had.

Any used MTB from a major brand that is from 2018 or newer.
Don’t get something much bigger than a 150 b/c plow life isnt something to start on ATMO.

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Used is the plan

How is the winter trail riding here? I’m used to NEVER riding a wet trail but I reckon that’s different in the NW.

There are a few old drumlins (piles of gravel that form under ice) that drain super well and are great to ride in the wet. (Tokul) There are plenty of pockets of other XC stuff that I never ride but are out there and good enough all year (grand ridge).

There are plenty of people who ride all the trails year round too…

The general order of drying out is.

Good in the wet
Tokul
Mitchell hill (bootleg trails)
Port Gamble

Dries out first to last
RAZZ (exit 27 eastern aspect)
Exit 27 West side
Tiger (bootleg woods trails)
Tiger Everything else

Most of Tiger and some other bootleg stuff like Bessemer is under snow most of the winter, right about 3k feet is the snow line.

If you got a MTB now and rode tokul all winter you would be primed to start riding Tiger when it dries out.

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I’m guessing Raging River would fare the same as Tiger?

I would say 150/160 fork is fine and it is nice to have it there to save your butt, esp. since you all have some great and gnarly trails over there. Maybe not a 150/160 rear end? Not a coil, etc.

I met another local rider yesterday. Guy moved to town from somewhere in Oregon 5 or so years ago and decided on here specifically because of the hill we have. Pretty unique in the Hudson Valley. Anyway, he was on a 150mm Ibis ripmo with a fox 38 on it. I was on my 120mm weenie bike above. We were riding the same trail but having completely different experiences. He mentioned a few times that he actually wanted a slightly bigger bike for the terrain here. So I’d say terrain would be one way to think about how big of a bike you get.

A second cautionary or inspiring tale: when I bought my very much downhill-oriented mtb I didn’t know what I was getting into. I rode by stuff my first year or two that I thought I’d never want to attempt. Now those parts of the trail are my happy place. Which is to say that the type of bike you get might dictate what kind of riding you end up enjoying.

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Raging river is exit 27… but is only called Raging River by Beginners or Tech dudes who only ride the flow trail.

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Agree… some of this is also bike geometry. Just that most bikes above 150 tend more towards the plow plow plow style of riding, which I dont think is great for beginners… mostly because a 170 bike with long and slack geo isnt fun on low angle smooth trails…

It me

Yes, geo too!

@Shamp you’re a beginner but you know how to ride bikes gud and you live in a mtb mecca.

@Shamp
This is the same bike I have. It rips.
With light tires you can do all day alpine shit, with burly ones you can ride anything in the i90 corridor.

What’s that?

I think he meant ALPINE, so long day, pedal upwards and outwards, etc. vs just focus on up/down.

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Oh lol yeah that actually makes sense

Riding uphill is bullshit

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not saying thats not true but MTB has about a 10/1 climb to descent ratio and a typical ride here has about 2,000 ft or more per 10 miles… so consider that as you are getting into it here.

Yeah I’m getting used to it. There’s a lot a mountains here, which comes as no surprise

What’s great about mtbing is that if the descent is more than 10 minutes your hands are so tired you can barely hold on, so you are somehow satisfied with the fact that you climbed an hour to descend for 7 minutes.

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Gonna hard agree with this statement. Going too xc will make you think the hard stuff is too hard unless you want to be a racer boi.

130-140 is the sweet spot atmo until you get more experience.

That’s what i had for my first two MTBs and then i started hitting the limit of my suspension and plowing into rocks too fast and moved up a level to a 150mm travel bike that liked plowing straight through things a bit better.

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Mtn biking be like ā€˜But what if riding down the hill was also bullshit?’

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This is why jumps are best. It’s both uphill and downhill with none of the downsides.

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