It would be weird not to take a picture of Fred in his natural habitat
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Damnit @igor why you put the polyv on sale so deep? I’ve already got a 650b BMC Road+, 650B Bassi Hogs Back, and 650b Jamis Aurora Elite but you make me want a 650B VO too.
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So you’re deep in the 650b ecosystem! I need room for cool new shit and we just have a lot. If you’re interested get em while you can cause they ain’t coming back.
Wow first the pass hunter now the polyvalent? Y’all are cutthroat.
these ones are 172.5mm
my 180mm pair are on my 1982 ALAN Super Record lugged aluminum road bike with a full Mavic drivetrain
admittedly we’re shaking up our frame lineup for 2025/6. I’m really excited for what’s to come. I’m trusting you to keep it quiet, but we’re going to have a new rando (rim), new Camargue (rim), Grand Tourer (boost), Neutrino, and Chessie (monster grav). Stay tuned.
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hey igor while we’ve got you here: any chance of the 29er Piolet fork ever being available as a standalone? Velo Orange Piolet Fork
wait, nothing replacing the pass hunter and poly?
Chessie for PH and Grand Tourer for Poly/Piolet. The GT I’m not 100% on boost so maybe reg 73mm.
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Ill see if we have one kicking about
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damn. if i literally wasn’t finishing building a 650b drop-top tube rim brake build i would be absolutely scooping one of those framesets. They’re absolutely beautiful frames.
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How come no one talking bout the curvy bar CUES?
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If I bought the derderder and corn cob could my current 8700 shakers get all the gears?
I thought the cable pull was a dyna-sys variant?
Maybe with a Tanpan 11?
tl;dr
new shakes, new FDs to go with them, new narrower-Q Cues cranks, “new” brake calipers that are refreshed UR300s.
Deets:
New toggle-link FD-U6030 front derailleur, in both band clamp and braze on varieties - “9/10 speed”
2 new cranks, one nicer hollow forged arms (FC-U6040), one with cheaper solid arms (FC-U6030) - both 152mm Q, 47mm chainline for the double, 50mm chainline for the single. Both available with 46/32 ot 50/34 double chainring sets, and 40T or 42T chainrings as a single. Doubles are only “9/10 speed”.
(these correspond to the existing FC-U6010 and FC-U6000 cranks, except those are 180mm Q and 48.8mm chainline on the doubles)
New super-short-cage RD-U4010 for 1x setups on small wheel bikes with up to an 11-39 cassette
Shakes:
A 10/11-speed hydraulic brake right brifter (ST-U6030-R), 10-speed cable brake right brifter (ST-U3030-10R), and 9-speed cable brake right brifter (ST-U3030-9R). Hydraulic and cable brake left double shifters (ST-U6030-L and ST-U3030-L). Hydraulic and cable brake left brake levers for 1x setups (BL-U6030-L and BL-U3030-L)
Officially sanctioned combinations:
- 1x11: hydraulic brake only
- 1x10 and 2x10: hydraulic brake or cable brake
- 1x9 or 2x9: cable brake only
Somewhat of a mystery why no 2x11 in the compatibility matrix. There’s a 2x11 in the flat bar groups. CUES uses 11-speed chain across the board so what makes the road double cranks or FDs “9/10” only? They’re also all the same cable pull on flatbar and dropbar for the rear derailleurs… so what’s stopping you from using the new ST-U6030 shakes on both sides with one of the new road cranks and new road derailleurs, combined with the existing RD-U8020 to make a 2x11 drop bar 46/32 x 11-45 setup? That’s officially sanctioned in the flatbar world, and the only difference on a dropbar setup would be a 47mm chainline vs 48.8mm chainline.
Not CUES, on the old Shimano 7/8/9-speed cable pull: Also some new 8-speed ESSA drop bar parts. 1x8 only - with the RD-U2000 rear derailleur and an 11-45 8-speed cassette with some cartoonishly huge gaps.
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Dynasys ratio but LinkGlide spacing
Adem is typing
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squints
are we talking 10-speed dura ace 7800 shakes?
which corncob are you talking about
The only derailleur they announced that would work with those shakes is the ESSA RD-U2000. Would do a 1x10 setup with those shakes with up to a 11-45 cassette (very much not a corncob) but not a 2x drivetrain.
Oops 6800.
I guess the question is… did they change the pull ratio for cues?
So it’s 1.1 there’s a lot of backwards compatibility with 10s/11s MTB derailleurs.
This seems like the biggest news to 9s dead enders who until now lacked easy access to clutch RDs. Not a big group but one I’m a member of myself.
“You don’t get it I need to spend $300 on new shifters so I can save $80 on cassettes and chains”
Wish they would have made new mech discs with the integrated adapters but lol talk about a terrible business case.
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Cues is basically dynasys rear derailleur motion ratio (MTB 10/11/12-speed). But different pull at the shifters because different cog spacing on the cassettes.
You can’t use any of the Cues stuff with 11-speed Ultegra shifters.
you only have “access to clutch RDs” for 9-speed via Cues if you swap your shifters and your cassette and your chain as well…?
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