Dangler wrangling

Damn you, sitting on your pile of slightly vintage Shimano like fucking bicycle Smaug. Next time you see me we’ll be bidding on the same eBay lot.

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So the one on the right should work for sram road for 10 and 11 speed eh. No converter needed.

Exact-actuation vs X-actuation.

Also this.

In all seriousness I will share whatever I figure out. My sense is that it’s going to be a moving target as new group sets keep coming out, and maybe shimano will keep 8000 in the mix

My dream is that weird aftermarket kludges will pop up to help keep the old mechanical bits going so my bike doesn’t start looking like something out of Mad Max.

Or electronic stuff will get cheap and I’ll just buy a wireless derailer and a bleep boop button and be good to go.

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Cheap, interoperable or open platform, nothing impossibly proprietary and I’d consider electronic group. As it stands, no thanks.

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Shiftmate works PERFECTLY and I have one on my CG.

BUT, if you just about any carbon gravel bike that’s internally routed (all of them?) has that dum dum routing from the dropout that straight up won’t work worth a shit for this.

I was able to BARELY hack together a system to run an older X9 clutched 10s on my Norco but it’s fussy at best.

As soon as Ratio makes more of their 110bcd Ekar rings I may throw in the towel and go back to 1x.

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Obviously you weren’t the first to Steampunk your dangler. Saw this on the national Steampunk HQ today.

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Dangler update! Pulled the pulleys and routed the chain correctly this time, put in a set screw to hold the spring tension and a longer bolt for the tension pulley, and also put in a nice new extra long b-screw in it too, so I might eventually see if this thing will work without the derailleur hanger extender.

Shifts great, very surprised that this thing actually indexes. I was really ready to get a new trigger shifter for this (and eventually I might) but this thing is working fine as it is!

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had a chance to scoop up another 10-speed XT RD for $15, so I figured what the hell why not give this another go. Went a lot quicker this time, just took an afternoon. Still a lot I did wrong – too long in the solution hoping it’d eat the most stubborn of the ano and it ate a bit of the weaker stuff, but it all bolts up nicely together. This time I remembered to plug all the important threads except … I forgot the B-screw threads! Had to re-tap the M4 to an M5, but it all bolts up right and seems to be workin’ just fine. Should be a good silver spare.

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105 9 speed pusher should work just fine with new Altus sl-m2010 shifters?

Interesting hack. Not seen this one before.

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that’s right it’s the HORRIBLE DERAILLEUR THAT WON’T DIE yes I did have to order replacement parts from the UK but a new spring, cage plates, and pivot have put this RD-M786 SGS back in business

I liked how this cage turned out – I may polish it up a bit more and swap it onto a silver-bodied M786 I scooped off ebay. Why am I doing this? I just don’t know!!

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haha that’s RIGHT this trail has come to an end* and I have reached the ultimate point in this evolutionary line. I think this is as silver as I need to get while not messing with the functioning pivots/springs/threads of the RD. Start with a silver RD-M786 that comes with a black cage (this one a medium cage), then swap on one (a long cage) I de-anodized as gently as I could and then sanded and polished a bit.

I initially found these cage swaps a little annoying but this is the gazillionth time I’ve taken one of these apart so I don’t mind it. You have to take off the three absolutely tiny fiddly screws that cover the serviceable clutch mechanism, then you pop off the clutch by hand, and then you can get access to the 4mm slot in the main pivot, itself threaded, that the cage threads into.

It’s shifting fine so far!

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@Orloved how do you like those Michelin tires?

I like them a lot! The little waffle-shaped tread always scares me because it looks like they pick up all kinds of shit in the tire but it’s actually just a pebble stuck in the little squares. They’re maybe tubeless so I’d like to get my hands on wider tubeless rims for 'em. They’re 26x2.25s that are reading 50mm on these ID19s.

The ones I’ve seen are tubeless, I just had a new DT Swiss 533d rim built up that is tubeless so I’m dithering on tires, that rim is 22mm internal so they should play nice together.

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So I’ve been doing some thinking…

I fell into a GX 10s 2x Derailleur. By the accounts above from @rancid_burple and @featherduster this plays fine with “exact actuation” hydro SRAM road levers. This makes it great for a 2x clutched setup, seemingly 11 OR 10speed.

I bought an S700 front 2x shifter that’s simply listed as yaw compatible, so I imagine that with a yaw pusher this would shift 10 or 11. I can’t see why it wouldn’t?

Ratio suggests that the 10 speed road shifters have been reported to function with their 2x12 upgrade kits, but it’s not confirmed. If that s700 front shifter would shift 11, would it shift 12? Combined with a compatible exact actuation rear shifter, the GX dangler would theoretically accommodate the 36t axs cassette for a clutched, mechanical shifting, hydro braking 2x 12 speed set up?

It was my understanding that it worked in a 10 speed body, but not the very earliest one. I’m not sure where I read that. Either their site or IG?

yeah gx 2x will do exact actuation. i have this going on 2 or 3 bikes

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