Did you just ShartQ?

Tarck give me your opinion.

My English 650b is borked, as I found out when I tried to sell it and the person who purchased it from me discovered. The post mount for the rear disc brake cracked and rusted through. In retrospect, I’m pretty sure I know when I cracked it in a crash on babyhead gravel. It has mechanical discs that like most mechanical discs suck beyond words. It is about 9 years old and reflects all the most advanced tech from 2011 or so.

So I can send it back to Rob, get it fixed, get everything redone for hydraulic discs and repaint, along with an entirely new eTap groupset except for maybe the crank and rims.

Or I can just have him build me a new bike altogether. I’m guessing that when all is said and done with shipping etc a new bike would be only about $1k more.

So what do? Unlike my 700C English I do not have a strong sentimental attachment to this bike.

pics plz for the matsci nerds

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I think what happened is I crashed at a slow speed, I kind of tipped over onto a boulder that fit right into the rear triangle. After that my braking was complete shit. And shortly after was when I quit riding for several years due to injuries/illness so it went in the basement with no further attention

I reckon you’ve already made up your mind: new bike time.
Sell the frame/fork with full disclosure of the problem and get to dithering on the new bike.

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That’s a shit brazing job, not crash damage

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Hmm well it was 9+ years ago when he was first starting out, and I haven’t heard of even a single other issue with his frames so I’m inclined to let it go.

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sure, it’s definitely a rookie move, but at least you don’t have to think of the bike as “crash damaged”

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Find a localish f-builder to fix that and let the new owner worry about new paint?

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Can you trade it in and let Rob handle repairs and resale?

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Show him the damage and ask his opinion. He may just fix it. I would it if were my frame.

What size is this thing anyway? Asking for a friend.

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This is the geo for my 700C, the geo for the 650 is very close but with adjustments for the bigger tires. It accommodates up to 42 mm

Too big for me, thankfully.

This is probably the best place to start. Give him a chance to make it right.

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Tis but a thousand , I get it, but when you are often spending a ton on a bikes its easy to lose sight of how much 1 cool cheese can get you.

I like new bikes, I like repaired stuff too. Is there anything else you like that $1000 might buy you?

Oh I have no doubt that he’d fix it for free, we have a long-standing and good relationship and he’d do the right thing regardless.

The real question is if I have to send it in I’d want a complete revamp for hydraulic brakes etc, which I would fully expect (and actually ask) that he charge me for. At that point I’m thinking a new frame altogether. Rob’s frames are still not ludicrously expensive like some other builders.

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Adam is silly for not keeping it. But I guess he kind of felt like you do about it as well in addition to the borked brake.

i guess the question is: is there something different you’d want from a bike? or just want this one to work? would you sell this one once its fixed?

Cut off post mounts, cut off dangler hanger, install sw8 fixed wheel, embrace the zen.

Y’all have really strayed, and it’s disappointing to see.

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I guess I’m not all that into super fat tires like I was when I was a BQ victim 10-12 years ago.

I’d like an ultralight eTap hydraulic disc bike with room for 32 mm tires (although I’d probably max out at 28 mm)

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I would challenge and English frame to make it through a single cycle of ISO pedaling fatigue, but whatever goats your float.

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