Did you just ShartQ?

You can jam a small flathead screwdriver in between the arm and the nut, catching the slot.

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Ive been trying that sort of technique for the better part of an hour with various screwdrivers and other wedgey things. Guess i’m buying the tool

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This is the one I’m thinking of:

https://www.rei.com/product/750478/park-tool-chainring-nut-wrench?sku=7504780011

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some also have a 10 and 8 or 9 mm box wrench suitable for fender hardware in a pinch

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Yeah. If it’s flipped it looks like there is room for one of those. I wonder how long I’ve had my one of those for.

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My Sugino chain ring nut tool has done it for my hidden bolts, too.

Yes

I bought a chainring bolt wrench almost twenty years ago, have almost never used it, as predicted by my conversation with the mechanic i bought it from:
me: these things work better than a big screwdriver?
mechanic: nah, not really
Me: oNe WrEnCh, pLeAsE
Mechanic: literally rolling eyes as he rang me up

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but they totally do work better because they have reliefs for the male part. everyone should own one.

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Yeah, least bad tool for the job. But still not great.

I like this guy. SUNLITE Y-Type Socket Wrench, 8-9-10mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AO9Q2Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4M23GGD21YM2315SQHJ8

oh for sure. but this can earn a spot in a saddle bag. all allen/torx is the superior way to fasten but wouldn’t work well for hidden bolts

I was frantically looking for mine last week and couldn’t find it. Just realized it’s in my track bag because that used to be the only time I ever needed it.

i ususally put a little outward pressure on the chainring so that theres some friction on the bolt, then make quick sharp turns of the allen wrench to tighten

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^this

agreed but once you need to loosen a stuck hidden bolt not much else will suffice

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I may be in a different camp but a tiny dab of loctite in between the inside bolt and the chainring/spider then letting it cure before you fully torque it has worked well in the past for tightening up one I couldn’t get a tool on.

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They’re a real shop… in Indonesia.

That’s where I used to keep mine, until I lost a back in the infield grass during a gear change. Then I put the knurled nuts on the tarck bike.

I still replace all the bolts on my cranks with the Sugino steel jawns.

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I remember coming very close to picking up one of those fancy VAR tools before just c-clamping the Sugino version of the little wrench to the back of a particularly stuck bolt.
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