Good piece here about the legal issues surrounding the decision and how it is unlikely that the evidence collected by the USADA will stay hidden.
“He said in his statement that he “will no longer address this issue, regardless of circumstances.” What Armstrong doesn’t understand, or won’t, is that it’s not up to him.”
[quote=tehschkott]I didn’t compile this myself, but from the .83 forums - who gets Lances title now? Let’s look.
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
I suspected the list looked a bit like this but fuck, seeing it all written out really bums me out about the sport.
I would be interested to see if there was something in the overal time/distance relationship which one could use to find improvements in doping. You’d have to control for improvements in technology and changes in the course, but we should be able to see when there are changes to both the dope available and the skill of those policing the dopers.
e.g the decrease in overall TdF times when the doping testing regime caught up temporarily a few years back.
[quote=teach me how to douggie]in the '96 TDF there was probably at least two or three guys racing clean on accident
bought some bunk shit, lost it traveling etc…
those guys are the true heroes atmo[/quote]
[quote=eric_s]I would be interested to see if there was something in the overal time/distance relationship which one could use to find improvements in doping. You’d have to control for improvements in technology and changes in the course, but we should be able to see when there are changes to both the dope available and the skill of those policing the dopers.
e.g the decrease in overall TdF times when the doping testing regime caught up temporarily a few years back.[/quote]
I’m too lazy to dig it up, but there are charts that show w/kg figures and times up routes like Ventoux and Alpe d’Huez. Once epogen become commonly used in the 90s those times went down and w/kg figures went up sharply. Things settled down a bit, once a test for EPO started being used in 2001.
[quote=halbritt][quote=eric_s]I would be interested to see if there was something in the overal time/distance relationship which one could use to find improvements in doping. You’d have to control for improvements in technology and changes in the course, but we should be able to see when there are changes to both the dope available and the skill of those policing the dopers.
e.g the decrease in overall TdF times when the doping testing regime caught up temporarily a few years back.[/quote]
I’m too lazy to dig it up, but there are charts that show w/kg figures and times up routes like Ventoux and Alpe d’Huez. Once epogen become commonly used in the 90s those times went down and w/kg figures went up sharply. Things settled down a bit, once a test for EPO started being used in 2001.[/quote]
Settled more after the biological passport too… good article on it.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/03/biological-passport-effective-fight-or.html
doper or not, one of the best cyclists ever.
merckx was doper.
So was jacque antiquel… sill think Lemond was clean though. Maybe Indurain too… or at least not completely jacked up like Riis, Pantani and other late 90s bros
agree lemond for sure. 90% on indurain.
they were just mutants
i read something recently, indurain still has a 450w threshold
If it was not for Lemond/Indurain I probably would not care about what is happening with Lance. Kindof glad to see that whole culture that ran from 96-07 really getting put to bed properly. You can’t really look back on the over the top doping years and say “never again” WITHOUT taking down Lance.
Makes you wonder if not for EPO would we be looking at Indurain as the 7 time winner and Lance as the guy who won a couple tours. Sure he was the “best” of the dopers but did that mean that he was physically the best or really no better than Ullrich but had access to a more finely tuned doping plan.
agree that he’s part of a purge
but he was the prototype. the way he doped and doped for recovery, even the way he pedaled (his cadence, his pedal stroke) was the template for a hundred careers and
he pretty much replaced the eddie b “horsepower school” thought process
oh man i read that abstract of that paper of big mig, dude no longer rides bikes anymore but some of his stats were off the charts superhuman. 14 years later.
I agree 100% but I’m still glad to see him get the same punch in the gut as his contemporaries… it’s only fair that way.
also thank merciful lucifer that i havent had to deal with any guys coming into the shop tryna talk about this whole thing.
i see oclv treks in that postal paint every so often
although most of those guys have lost a bit of weight and no longer fit the size xxl replica team kit
and have now moved onto brewpub jerzeys
it’s almost easy to forget how big of a role ol one ball played in the domestic bike zeitgeist
hey link this if you can find it
i wanna show my buddy this
he didnt believe me
fuuu
also 28bpm resting heart rate fuu
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indurian is riding the Las Vegas Gran Fondo next month. Lulz.